SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Where does it say in that oath that she's the border czar? What are you talking about?
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And The Border Is Secure??????
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SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Nonsense.No she doesn't. Biden and Harris has created a great danger to the citizens of this country by intentionally keeping the borders open to anybody who just wants to waltz on in with disregard to US citizens living here and refusing to close them to the tune of 11, 000,000 encounters of illegals. Some multiple times.
Statistics on unauthorized US immigration and US border crossings by year
The US has reported nearly 11 million unauthorized border encounters between October 2019 and June 2024.usafacts.org
How many times are you going to conveniently forget about the bipartisan border bill that Trump kiboshed so he'd have something to run on. Sit down, you guys have only Trump and the Republicans who listened to him to blame.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Waaah, ... They didn't do anything at the border ... but then they did, but I'm still unhappy and whiny about it!
Waaah ... Trump kiboshed a bipartisan border bill but I'm gonna pretend that never happened and whine anyway ... waaaah
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I rest my case a fourth time.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Bipartisan border bill? Don't make me laugh. Everybody knows that it wasn't a border bill , it was actually an asylum bill disguised as a border bill, not to mention all the earmarks and riders added into it.
How many times is it going to take for you to get it?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
There are two problems with that graph. First off it is very very misleading. First off it does not accurately represent border crossing during Trumps administration. They were for the most part far higher than that You seem to have forgotten the pandemic that closed the border. That is the main problem. Second it does not reflect border crossings after Biden change the policy. And the problem would have been solved even earlier and better if Trump had not ordered his minions to keep the border open. If you want to talk about the border you cannot ignore that fact that Trump was a huge part of the problem. Now they are lower than they were at the peak of Trump's years:Dont you know illegals trying to cross/crossing the border has went down under Biden? (sarcasm)
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Statistics on unauthorized US immigration and US border crossings by year
The US has reported nearly 11 million unauthorized border encounters between October 2019 and June 2024.
Migrant encounters at U.S.-Mexico border have fallen sharply in 2024
The monthly number of U.S. Border Patrol encounters with migrants crossing from Mexico has plummeted in 2024 from 2023's record high.
www.pewresearch.org
It is funny how Trump supporters never ever tell the whole story.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No need to keep admitting that you are wrong, But thank you so very much. Meanwhile if you want to see the proper way to rest a case, here is a clue, it involves all of the evidence, then you should check my above post. The border is secure.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I rest my case a fifth time.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No, it was written largely by Republicans. Like it or not we cannot just throw out people that applied for asylum. In case you forgot this is a nation of laws. We have to follow our own laws. That bill would have greatly increased the number of judges for asylum courts so that we could process the backlog of people applying for asylum much more quickly. We need a legal solution. Not a fascist solution. And Trump only offers fascist solutions.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Thank you so much. By ignoring how your claims were refuted you doubly admitted that you were wrong.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Which one? Mine shows that Trump's illegal migration peaked in May of 2019. It also shows a massive decrease since Biden changed policy.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I am talking about this graph.
Migrant encounters at U.S.-Mexico border have fallen sharply in 2024
The monthly number of U.S. Border Patrol encounters with migrants crossing from Mexico has plummeted in 2024 from 2023's record high.
www.pewresearch.org
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Like I said, the ebb and flow of migrants always decreases during the summer and increases during the winter.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Everybody knows you're wrong.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
That graph shows that crossings are lowest in January. The pattern did not change until the sudden influx during the Biden administration. The why of that growth is not fully understood yet, but I wonder if oppression took a sharp jump in some countries after Covid. The event caused worldwide inflation, it may have caused worldwide oppression as well.I am talking about this graph.
Migrant encounters at U.S.-Mexico border have fallen sharply in 2024
The monthly number of U.S. Border Patrol encounters with migrants crossing from Mexico has plummeted in 2024 from 2023's record high.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
The bill had all sorts of other stuff, including but not limited to foreign aid, attached to it.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Yes it did. That is who compromise works. Both sides do that.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
It absolutely does not but oh well.