And The Border Is Secure??????

[SkepticThinker]

She's the Vice President of the United States who in fact takes an oath of office sworn to protect and uphold the constitution.

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.[4]"


Your idea it's just a Fox News talking point is so laughable and incredibly sad at the same time it's beyond description.



Maybe take such brainwashing in as well, and summarily wash one's brains out on the matter.

Where does it say in that oath that she's the border czar? What are you talking about?

 

[SkepticThinker]

No she doesn't. Biden and Harris has created a great danger to the citizens of this country by intentionally keeping the borders open to anybody who just wants to waltz on in with disregard to US citizens living here and refusing to close them to the tune of 11, 000,000 encounters of illegals. Some multiple times.

Statistics on unauthorized US immigration and US border crossings by year

The US has reported nearly 11 million unauthorized border encounters between October 2019 and June 2024.

usafacts.org

Nonsense.

How many times are you going to conveniently forget about the bipartisan border bill that Trump kiboshed so he'd have something to run on. Sit down, you guys have only Trump and the Republicans who listened to him to blame.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Laughable. Only because the election is now closing here on the Democrats who clearly are desperate , but too little too late.

Definitely a nice display of pandering and I certainly am happy to see the numbers lower.

Just too bad they didn't bother to do that three and a half years ago before absolutely destroying this nation with this intentionally orchestrated invasion that has wrecked so much damage and created the utter chaos that Trump, once he is president again, will have to clean up this disaster.

Waaah, ... They didn't do anything at the border ... but then they did, but I'm still unhappy and whiny about it!
Waaah ... Trump kiboshed a bipartisan border bill but I'm gonna pretend that never happened and whine anyway ... waaaah

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Waaah, ... They didn't do anything at the border ... but then they did, but I'm still unhappy and whiny about it!
Waaah ... Trump kiboshed a bipartisan border bill but I'm gonna pretend that never happened and whine anyway ... waaaah

 

[Twilight Hue]

No need to keep admitting that you are wrong. But thank you.

I rest my case a fourth time.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Nonsense.

How many times are you going to conveniently forget about the bipartisan border bill that Trump kiboshed so he'd have something to run on. Sit down, you guys have only Trump and the Republicans who listened to him to blame.

Bipartisan border bill? Don't make me laugh. Everybody knows that it wasn't a border bill , it was actually an asylum bill disguised as a border bill, not to mention all the earmarks and riders added into it.

How many times is it going to take for you to get it?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Dont you know illegals trying to cross/crossing the border has went down under Biden? (sarcasm)


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Statistics on unauthorized US immigration and US border crossings by year

The US has reported nearly 11 million unauthorized border encounters between October 2019 and June 2024.

usafacts.org

There are two problems with that graph. First off it is very very misleading. First off it does not accurately represent border crossing during Trumps administration. They were for the most part far higher than that You seem to have forgotten the pandemic that closed the border. That is the main problem. Second it does not reflect border crossings after Biden change the policy. And the problem would have been solved even earlier and better if Trump had not ordered his minions to keep the border open. If you want to talk about the border you cannot ignore that fact that Trump was a huge part of the problem. Now they are lower than they were at the peak of Trump's years:

Migrant encounters at U.S.-Mexico border have fallen sharply in 2024

The monthly number of U.S. Border Patrol encounters with migrants crossing from Mexico has plummeted in 2024 from 2023's record high.

www.pewresearch.org

It is funny how Trump supporters never ever tell the whole story.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I rest my case a fourth time.

No need to keep admitting that you are wrong, But thank you so very much. Meanwhile if you want to see the proper way to rest a case, here is a clue, it involves all of the evidence, then you should check my above post. The border is secure.

 

[Twilight Hue]

No need to keep admitting that you are wrong, But thank you so very much. Meanwhile if you want to see the proper way to rest a case, here is a clue, it involves all of the evidence, then you should check my above post. The border is secure.

I rest my case a fifth time.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Bipartisan border bill? Don't make me laugh. Everybody knows that it wasn't a border bill , it was actually an asylum bill disguised as a border bill, not to mention all the earmarks and riders added into it.

How many times is it going to take for you to get it?

No, it was written largely by Republicans. Like it or not we cannot just throw out people that applied for asylum. In case you forgot this is a nation of laws. We have to follow our own laws. That bill would have greatly increased the number of judges for asylum courts so that we could process the backlog of people applying for asylum much more quickly. We need a legal solution. Not a fascist solution. And Trump only offers fascist solutions.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I rest my case a fifth time.

Thank you so much. By ignoring how your claims were refuted you doubly admitted that you were wrong.

 

[Kathryn]

Up until recently, it's been very hot around the border. It's still very warm. If you look at the graph above, you can see that the number of migrants always peaks in the winter and drops over the summer.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Up until recently, it's been very hot around the border. It's still very warm. If you look at the graph above, you can see that the number of migrants always peaks in the winter and drops over the summer.

Which one? Mine shows that Trump's illegal migration peaked in May of 2019. It also shows a massive decrease since Biden changed policy.

 

[Kathryn]

Which one? Mine shows that Trump's illegal migration peaked in May of 2019. It also shows a massive decrease since Biden changed policy.

I am talking about this graph.

Migrant encounters at U.S.-Mexico border have fallen sharply in 2024

The monthly number of U.S. Border Patrol encounters with migrants crossing from Mexico has plummeted in 2024 from 2023's record high.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[Kathryn]

Which one? Mine shows that Trump's illegal migration peaked in May of 2019. It also shows a massive decrease since Biden changed policy.

Like I said, the ebb and flow of migrants always decreases during the summer and increases during the winter.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Bipartisan border bill? Don't make me laugh. Everybody knows that it wasn't a border bill , it was actually an asylum bill disguised as a border bill, not to mention all the earmarks and riders added into it.

How many times is it going to take for you to get it?

Everybody knows you're wrong.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I am talking about this graph.

Migrant encounters at U.S.-Mexico border have fallen sharply in 2024

The monthly number of U.S. Border Patrol encounters with migrants crossing from Mexico has plummeted in 2024 from 2023's record high.

www.pewresearch.org

That graph shows that crossings are lowest in January. The pattern did not change until the sudden influx during the Biden administration. The why of that growth is not fully understood yet, but I wonder if oppression took a sharp jump in some countries after Covid. The event caused worldwide inflation, it may have caused worldwide oppression as well.

 

[Kathryn]

Everybody knows you're wrong.

The bill had all sorts of other stuff, including but not limited to foreign aid, attached to it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The bill had all sorts of other stuff, including but not limited to foreign aid, attached to it.

Yes it did. That is who compromise works. Both sides do that.

 

[Kathryn]

That graph shows that crossings are lowest in January. The pattern did not change until the sudden influx during the Biden administration. The why of that growth is not fully understood yet, but I wonder if oppression took a sharp jump in some countries after Covid. The event caused worldwide inflation, it may have caused worldwide oppression as well.

It absolutely does not but oh well.