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Are Americans disposed to fight a war against Russia?

F1fan

Veteran Member
I think he saved Russia from banking devils who belong in Hell.
But he couldn't save Russia from himself. He lost a lot of economic prosperity, and global respect.
So he is a hero...in my eyes.
And that reflects poorly on you. He's a war criminal and dictator that kills his opponents.
Ukraine has invaded Russia...this shows that Donbas is just an excuse.
LOL, yeah, putin is so incompetent that Ukraine acctually lauched a counter attack against Russia. And Russia can't organize a defense. And to make is more painful for putin it is in the Kursk area, which was a huge victory for Russia against the Germans in July 1943. putin is a loser, and he will not come away from this war he started. He needs to admit defeat and give back all the land that is Ukrainian.
America is paying Ukraine to do the legwork...because America wants to conquer Moscow.
Another absurd claim without any evidence. The USA is a coalition of nations who see Russia as a threat. putin is losing. He gambled, he lost already. He is holding on in case Trump wins and he hopes the USA aid to Ukraine ends. Trump is as big an idiot as putin who will gamble and lose.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
How has instigating wars benefited his country? How has trafficking children helped in the defense of it?

Is there a place for transwomen in a "Christian Europe"?
I kindly remind you that in Russia healthcare is free.

In the USA the Government let the poor die of cancer...since they can't afford cures.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
As I told you, I have met some of these soldiers who live abroad.
It was a naval air station in Sicily, near the university city where I used to study so the period was 2005-2007.
They were pretty ordinary guys. They used to go to the disco as any other guy of their age.

They didn't want to die in stupid wars in the Middle East or in the steppe.
They wanted to live.

I think being a soldier means to be ready to protect your country or NATO countries. It doesn't mean to be sent as sacrificial victim or as cannon fodder whereas those obese, sinful billionaires smoke cigars in their mansions and gain millions from the sale of warfare.

Those who get into the military obviously passed the physical and meet the physical requirements, however I think the military's main concern is that too large a percentage of America's military-age population is just not in good enough physical shape. Recruitment is also low.

I've lived near two major military bases for most of my life, so I've known a lot of military, ex-military, war veterans over the years. One of my closest friends was a combat veteran who served as a CB (Navy Construction Battalion) in Vietnam. He spoke of some pretty rough times over there, but his views would probably be considered right-wing these days. He was kind of a war hawk, and he was the first one to admit it. But his experience in the military made him quite resentful of the military administration and the government in general. He believed he was fighting for a good cause, and I respected that, but his complaints seemed to revolve around the top level officers and bureaucrats who were running the show. He didn't like them. He thought they were idiots.

He was really into Bible prophecy and other scriptures. He didn't consider himself Christian because he believed that the Christian Church covered up the real story and put out a fake Bible. He was kind of into conspiracies, UFOs, aliens. You would have liked him. Sadly, he passed away more than 20 years ago.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
But he couldn't save Russia from himself. He lost a lot of economic prosperity, and global respect.

And that reflects poorly on you. He's a war criminal and dictator that kills his opponents.

LOL, yeah, putin is so incompetent that Ukraine acctually lauched a counter attack against Russia. And Russia can't organize a defense. And to make is more painful for putin it is in the Kursk area, which was a huge victory for Russia against the Germans in July 1943. putin is a loser, and he will not come away from this war he started. He needs to admit defeat and give back all the land that is Ukrainian.

Another absurd claim without any evidence. The USA is a coalition of nations who see Russia as a threat. putin is losing. He gambled, he lost already. He is holding on in case Trump wins and he hopes the USA aid to Ukraine ends. Trump is as big an idiot as putin who will gamble and lose.
Math is logic.
Russian population: 144, 2 million.
Ukrainian population: 38 million.

I guess that you don't need to be a genius to understand that it's impossible that Ukrainians win.
They are outnumbered.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I do.
Nazis lost the war because they were outnumbered by Russians.

I am sorry for those Italians who were so idiotic to follow Hitler...they probably had the IQ of an ape.

No, they were out produced. Numbers by themselves are no guarantee of anything in war.

If that was the case 100 soldiers with rifles would win against 10 in a tank and IFV for the relevant terrain.

In war, terrain, initiative, logics, technology and manpower counts. But you need more than just manpower.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Math is logic.
Russian population: 144, 2 million.
Ukrainian population: 38 million.

I guess that you don't need to be a genius to understand that it's impossible that Ukrainians win.
They are outnumbered.
Tech, training, tactics, coordination, etc. play a huge role.

Here are some examples courtesy of ChatGPT:

1. Battle of Marathon (490 BC) – Greco-Persian Wars​

  • Victor: Greeks (Athenians)
  • Inferior Numbers: Approximately 10,000 Greeks versus 25,000-30,000 Persians
  • Reason for Victory: Superior tactics, including a surprise attack and the use of heavily armed hoplites. The Persians were caught off guard, leading to a decisive Greek victory.

2. Battle of Alesia (52 BC) – Caesar's Gallic Wars​

  • Victor: Romans under Julius Caesar
  • Inferior Numbers: Approximately 60,000 Romans versus 180,000-250,000 Gauls
  • Reason for Victory: Caesar’s strategic use of fortifications to both besiege the Gauls inside the city and fend off the larger relief force. The Romans' superior engineering and discipline led to victory.

3. Battle of Agincourt (1415) – Hundred Years' War​

  • Victor: English under King Henry V
  • Inferior Numbers: Approximately 6,000 English troops versus 20,000-30,000 French
  • Reason for Victory: The English longbowmen played a critical role. French forces were funneled into a muddy, narrow battlefield, where they became easy targets for the archers, and their cavalry was hindered by the terrain.

4. Battle of Trenton (1776) – American Revolutionary War​

  • Victor: American Continental Army under George Washington
  • Inferior Numbers: Approximately 2,400 Americans versus 1,400 Hessian soldiers (though the Americans were outnumbered overall in the conflict)
  • Reason for Victory: Washington’s surprise attack on Christmas night caught the Hessian forces off guard. The Americans had superior timing and planning, leading to a quick and decisive victory.

5. Battle of Isandlwana (1879) – Anglo-Zulu War​

  • Victor: Zulu Kingdom
  • Inferior Numbers: The British force of 1,800 soldiers versus around 20,000 Zulu warriors (technically, the Zulus had more troops, but this victory is notable because of the power differential between modern weapons and traditional arms)
  • Reason for Victory: The Zulus used superior tactics, including a “horns of the buffalo” encirclement strategy, to overwhelm the British. The British were unprepared and poorly deployed despite their superior weaponry.

6. Battle of Cannae (216 BC) – Second Punic War​

  • Victor: Carthaginian Army under Hannibal
  • Inferior Numbers: Approximately 50,000 Carthaginians versus 86,000 Romans
  • Reason for Victory: Hannibal’s double-envelopment tactic, where he lured the Romans into a trap and surrounded them, leading to one of the most devastating defeats in Roman military history.

7. Battle of Chosin Reservoir (1950) – Korean War​

  • Victor: United Nations (primarily U.S. Marines)
  • Inferior Numbers: Approximately 30,000 U.N. troops versus 120,000 Chinese forces
  • Reason for Victory: Despite being encircled, the U.N. forces managed a fighting withdrawal due to superior firepower, logistics, and leadership. While not a clear-cut victory in terms of territory, the U.N. forces inflicted heavy casualties and successfully retreated in good order.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
I am mystified by your answer and I have the impression you didn't really understand that I was talking about a very elitist group of politicians.
If someone from America criticizes a very elitist group in my country...I tell them "bravo", or "bravissimo", because I do that too.

I don't understand why you have to defend those people as if they were your family.
Well it is obvious you don't understand me, I am not defending anyone, I am questioning your knowledge on the topic..... you see I understand what you are talking about, my issue is I don't believe you have any idea what you are talking about.

And if someone from America criticizes a politician in Europe, especially Putin, you respond something like "You don't know you are not from Europe" But yet you continue to think you know more than anyone else in America as to what things are like, and yet you are not an American.....things that make you go hmmmm
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
No, they were out produced. Numbers by themselves are no guarantee of anything in war.

If that was the case 100 soldiers with rifles would win against 10 in a tank and IFV for the relevant terrain.

In war, terrain, initiative, logics, technology and manpower counts. But you need more than just manpower.
Nazi Germany warfare was incredibly superior to the Soviet one. So it was numbers.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Nazi Germany warfare was incredibly superior to the Soviet one. So it was numbers.
It was mostly the Russian Winter....and bad logistics on the part of the German Army and Nazis.... much like what happened to Napoleon.... You see, I read a few books too
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I do.
Nazis lost the war because they were outnumbered by Russians.

I am sorry for those Italians who were so idiotic to follow Hitler...they probably had the IQ of an ape.

The Nazis were outnumbered by everyone they were fighting. The fact that they were able to make their incredible early gains at all was probably more due to Allied bungling and incompetence than anything else. Hitler was lucky in the first few years, but then his luck ran out, along with his oil supply, which was probably the most critical factor in the Axis defeat.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
The Nazis were outnumbered by everyone they were fighting. The fact that they were able to make their incredible early gains at all was probably more due to Allied bungling and incompetence than anything else. Hitler was lucky in the first few years, but then his luck ran out, along with his oil supply, which was probably the most critical factor in the Axis defeat.
They also had this need to produce quality and not quantity as it applies to their weapons..... 1 Tiger tank may easily defeat a Sherman.... but it can't defeat several Shermans
 
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