The truth be told, I think the only open minded people are Agnostics on this subject.
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Are Atheists just close minded Agnostics?
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The truth be told, I think the only open minded people are Agnostics on this subject.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Good thing I'm one of those. And an atheist too.
riley2112
Active Member
I would have no idea what kind of evidence he would believe However but considering any evidence , that in it self would indicate an open mind. One does not have to agree with an idea to have an open mind. But , being that you brought it up , what would you consider evidence to change your belief? Is your mind open or closed? And how would you define an open mind?
To each his own.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Indeed, rationality-based thinking for some of us, something else for others. Vive le difference.
riley2112
Active Member
so are you saying that theists simply are confused, deluded, sheep-like people willing to believe whatever is told them? and atheists are egotistical infidel recalcitrants who would stubbornly refuse to believe even if an angel appeared and proclaimed God's existence? And the only ones that have an honest thought are Agnostics? Really?
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I'm open minded about Mr.Trout's claim he has an open mind, but seeing that he is a self proclaimd Agnostic, it only goes to prove my point, but then again I could be wrong. I'm just guessing, I don't claim to be able to read his mind.
If it comes to believing in God, like most Atheists, I have a closed mind.
riley2112
Active Member
So, just to make sure I understand what you are saying, you have a closed mind when it comes to believing in God. So if God Himself came down and stood in front and proved he was God in any way you wanted , you still would not believe in God. Is that correct?
While this thread is not about Theists, most of them are closed minded as well. Everything else you just said is hyperbole IMHO.
All three groups could not dispute proof positive, but some of them would.
Pretending you have an open mind waiting on something that is not going to happen is dishonest.
riley2112
Active Member
So now having a closed mind gives you the ability to see what is and what is not going to happen. That is an interesting thought.
However I will agree that most Theists I have known are closed minded to the point of WOW! And that is saying alot being that I am Christian. However I believe that I have a very open mind. But I , at this time , do not believe I am waiting for something that is not going to happen. So I guess I am still being honest. However I would love to hear your thoughts on it.
No, I am a Theist who has an equally closed mind like most Atheists.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
While I admit that it's possible that someone stuffed my mailbox full of one hundred dollar bills, I'm not expecting to find any when I do check my mail because it's improbable.
Very funny. Feel free to go back to my post where you responded that this isn't about theists.
I believe Christ will return and that will be proof positive. I don't believe God will make it possible to prove anything to anyone because then faith will be moot.
I believe God wants us to believe in the unprovable and there will not be any evidence forth coming.
Do you believe that Atheists will have something to consider before Christ returns?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Why would god gift us with the ability to reason only to punish us for using it?
Also, a distinction should be made between god and how mortals have perceived and portrayed god. For example, person A says George Washington didn't exist, Person B says George Washing shot lasers from his eyes. Who's right?
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Quote me in context. I have made every attempt to stay on topic.
I'm not saying your off topic. My response is to your claim that most atheists are close minded which is very much on topic.
Here is an open minded fellow.
riley2112
Active Member
Oh , I see, can one with a closed mind truly seek out the truth? And isn't the truth what we all want? That is one of the things that confuse me about the faith I follow. It would seem that most of my faith are closed minded which defeats the very purpose of what I believe God wants. I believe he wants us all to be saved and to do that we must all believe , for that to happen we must all seek the truth. If God is the truth then once all investigation is done , He will still be the truth. So open your mind. I want some one to prove to me that God is not real. Because in trying to do so they may find the truth and then they will believe. Just a thought, I know I am getting off subject here so I will exit :run: thanks for letting me up on my soap box. Stay open.
Why would God speak to Moses, allow him to live all those years, part the red sea for him and then let him die before his people found their promise land?
Moses was so faithful yet was denied the promise land.