No, I don't. I would agree if sexual harassment, sexual assault, discrimination, healthcare neglect, et all wasn't such a depressingly regular part of the American woman's experience. Misogyny is still very much a part of American culture.
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Twilight Hue
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Though all of those things do exist, I wouldn't call it American culture because the majority of Americans do not approve of such behaviors, and vilify those who engage in it.
Their intent doesn't overshadow the impact, which most women experience. Their experience of those things is what defines the culture for American women. Not those who slap it on the wrist or sweep it under the rug, which is what the majority of those in power do.
Ridicules. What you're suggesting is as absurd as saying murder is a part of American culture because it happens all the time. Just like those who murder do it under the cover of darkness and do everything possible to hide their crimes; and deny it when caught, those who sexually assault, harass, and discriminate against women do it under the cover of darkness and try to deny it when they are caught because they know there are consequences for engaging in such behavior. Think about it; if it were a part of American culture, it wouldn't be ILLEGAL in America.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Weed is a part of American culture (like alcohol) and it's illegal (as was alcohol at one point).
Culture norms, values, mores, taboos and laws are known for not necessarily matching.
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Weird choice of analogy as US is one of the highest crime places in the developed world. And I would absolutely say it is part of American culture. Ditto gun violence and drug culture, police abuse, etc. All part of American culture. Legality has nothing to do with it.
Also, lots of sexual harassment, assault and rape happen very much in the open, (Trump wasn't even the first president we turned a blind eye to it, and will likely not be the last) because it's so difficult to prove and so many get off without even a slap on the wrist. We have a terrible track record as far as cultural standards and rape. I, as a millenial, am older than marital rape was made federally illegal. Let that sink in a moment.
RestlessSoul
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Just because a lot of people engage in criminal behavior, doesn't mean criminal behavior has become a part of American culture. Nobody references culture as justification for killing somebody. When I think of Cultural practices, I think of (for example) the cultural practice of circumcision in Judaism; the fact that there are Jewish people who don't get circumcised does not take away from the fact that circumcision is a part of Jewish culture.
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What makes weed and alcohol a part of American culture?
Shadow Wolf
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You'll find them both celebrated in popular culture and underground subcultures mediums of art, there is encouragement to abuse both amd efforts to criminalize them have utterly failed as the two drugs have proven themselves unshakeable from the American palate.
It does to me. Culture isn't what we want, it's what exists within the system despite what we want. That includes the things many or even most of us consider bad.
But honestly misogyny exists systemically in American culture and isn't considered bad in many of its incarnations. Not even assault if it's just 'boys being boys.'
Drugs and alcohol use and abuse exists within nearly every country on Earth; how can you call it an American culture when it is just as prevalent in countless other countries? When you have a country of 350 million people, there will be countless different cultures within that country (Jewish culture, Hispanic culture, Gun culture, Christian culture, etc. etc.) but that doesn’t make them all American cultures! When I think of American cultures, I think of something unique to America like; setting off fireworks on July 4th, decorating your house and a specific type of tree during Christmas, I see these as American cultures.
What you’re describing happens in every country on Earth; how can you call it an American culture when it is just as prevalent in countless other countries? When you have a country of 350 million people, there will be countless different cultures within that country (Jewish culture, Hispanic culture, Gun culture, Christian culture, etc. etc.) but that doesn’t make them all American cultures! When I think of American cultures, I think of something unique to America like; setting off fireworks on July 4th, decorating your house and a specific type of tree during Christmas, I see these as American cultures.
Shadow Wolf
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Something doesn't have to be unique for it be a part of that country's culture. Such as, America, Australia, Canada, England amd some others share English as a primary language as a common cultural facet. Western culture tends to come from countries that have been traditionally Christian, rooted in European history, amd think more individualistic than Eastern cultures that are collective, widely Buddhist (mixed with some others) and come from Asain countries/cultures.
And fireworks on days of celebrations and independence isn't uncommon. Decorating houses and certain trees are practices that are so old that even Pagans did similar. But it's what we have a d how we decorate it that determines if it's American or someone elses.
Basically what @Shadow Wolf said but:
A thing can belong to the culture of multiple countries at once. There are things which are uniquely American, like most of the current generation of kids being scared they'll be part of the next daily school shooting. Rape culture is a part of American culture and other cultures. But the environment, narratives and attitudes around rape culture can also be uniquely American. Part of American culture. And American culture is bad for women, and getting worse.
I don't see English language as an American culture.
Sounds like we are in agreement.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Most Americans speak English, making it the predominant language of American culture.
Just so we are understanding each other, how are you defining culture, and give an example of something that goes on in America that is not an American culture according to your definition.
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Perhaps we just disagree on what constitutes culture, and not.