Arming teachers is a great idea

[Jollybear]

I got a question for those who believe racists should not have guns.

Why shouldent they?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Not all white nationalists are gonna have a "record" of such belief. So, banning them from guns wont be that easy.

But hey, lets say i give you that point. Ok, arm the non white nationalist teachers then. Problem solved.

It doesn't matter they have a record, they are white nationalists what part of that do you not understand?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I got a question for those who believe racists should not have guns.

Why shouldent they?

That is a stupid question...Because they can potentially kill someone who they hate being around. A racist does not like someone who is of a different ethnic group. The racist may hate said ethnic group. The racist may hate said ethnic group.....Did I mention a racist hates said ethnic group...?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Sooo...you think a crazed White Nationalist teacher bent on mayhem and destruction in a public school is not going to bring a gun to school just because it's "not allowed"? This has to ring a "DUH" bell in anyone's brain, don't you think?

You either misunderstood me or misquoted me.......

 

[Jollybear]

It doesn't matter they have a record, they are white nationalists what part of that do you not understand?

What i mean is, some white nationalists can lie about it in order to still get a gun.

 

[Jollybear]

That is a stupid question...Because they can potentially kill someone who they hate being around. A racist does not like someone who is of a different ethnic group. The racist may hate said ethnic group. The racist may hate said ethnic group.....Did I mention a racist hates said ethnic group...?

How do you know they all hate anyone outside there own ethnicity?

Lets go back in time at slavery.

Those white folks who owned black slaves, did they all hate there slaves? Mayby some did. But certainly not all did. And despite that, ALL WOULD have looked at there slaves as a comodity to be PROTECTED .

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Well, no one ever thought about starting a gun fight when I was in high school...just sayin'.

Great. Which helps how?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

What i mean is, some white nationalists can lie about it in order to still get a gun.

That is my point it is dangerous nonetheless...I guess you are saying they could lie and we don't know they are lying.

 

[Sapiens]

better to hide under your desk?

Absolutely.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

How do you know they all hate anyone outside there own ethnicity?

Lets go back in time at slavery.

Those white folks who owned black slaves, did they all hate there slaves? Mayby some did. But certainly not all did. And despite that, ALL WOULD have looked at there slaves as a comodity to be PROTECTED .

Where is my Jesus face palm.....

I can hate STD's but if I want sex and am desperate am willing to have sex with prostitutes to indulge my sensations. White colonialists were drawn to foreign African women based on phenotype and thus came rape....You can hate my skin but you as a human with a distorted sense of reality can rape someone.

 

[Jollybear]

That is my point it is dangerous nonetheless...I guess you are saying they could lie and we don't know they are lying.

Correct. They could lie and we not know there white nationalists.

And if wer dealing with the kind of racists that look at a so called inferior ethnic group as a commodity, then how would THOSE kind of racists be dangerous?

 

[Prometheus85]

How do you know they all hate anyone outside there own ethnicity?

Lets go back in time at slavery.

Those white folks who owned black slaves, did they all hate there slaves? Mayby some did. But certainly not all did. And despite that, ALL WOULD have looked at there slaves as a comodity to be PROTECTED .

slaves were commodities to be bought, sold, bred, and borrowed against.


Slaves were NOT employees, they were properties that got worse treatments than slave owners’ dogs.

It is highly disingenuous for anyone to try to soften the violence and evil of slavery.

And slavery was maintained with unspeakable violence

The wife and children of a slave could be sold at the whim of “Master” at any time

Seriously everything that you say is WORNG!

 

[oldbadger]

... wow.

...I know........
Frightening.
Here's a gun, here's the bullets...... now, training by numbers, one, two, three, ....see?..... easy as can be.....

Just like riding a bike.

Until, you meet with the person who has already decided to throw their life down, and who knows they will be dead in a short while, and nothing matters........

One minute teaching history, the next groping for that gun while folks are falling in blood.

Yep........................ ain't it a great idea. They've lost the plot.

 

[Prometheus85]

I got a question for those who believe racists should not have guns.

Why shouldent they?

You ever heard of Dillion Roof?

 

[Prometheus85]

Correct. They could lie and we not know there white nationalists.

And if wer dealing with the kind of racists that look at a so called inferior ethnic group as a commodity, then how would THOSE kind of racists be dangerous?

Holy crap @Jollybear thinks since salves were commodities they were treated well lol
Forget that the enslaved workers were dehumanized property with no rights to person, self-determination or respect for their familial bonds: at least they were “commodities”, &jollybear seems to be saying.

Wow

 

[oldbadger]

And bullet proof vests could be a voluntary option, but not mandatory.

No police constable in the UK goes on duty without body armour, and many of these only carry a stick, spray and 'cuffs'. And there ain't as many police shootings here in a decade as in your schools in a statistical week.

A shooter could shoot a teacher in the head, should the teacher now wear a bullet proof helmet?

Ahhhh ha! So if a teacher could die suddenly and without warning, there's not much point in having a gun, either, yes?

Also, i dont think teachers need to give up two weeks for training every year. Just train as a ONE TIME event. Once you know how to use the gun and learn scenario situations to protect yourself better, thats it, training is over.

Think of all the money your country could save if it only had to train an army, navy or air force once!
Not!

I trained on how to ride a bike. Its been years since ive driven a bike. I dont need to train again, i know how to ride it.

So carrying a gun when surrounded by kids and being able to use it suddenly in an emergency, whilst overloading with adrenaline.......... is a bit liking riding a bike?
OMG.

And no, they dont need extra pay for extra risk. If thats the case then youd have to pay kids to go to school because of risk.

Tell that to the teachers and their families.

Insurrence for accidents, perhaps.

No, Insurance for all risks.
Very expensive, if available.

 

[averageJOE]

If we arm teachers we are doing nothing more than admitting defeat. We would be accepting mass shootings as an unpreventable part of life that we cannot control. We would literally be saying "Oh well. It happens. Nothing you can do about it." Arming teachers would be no different than carrying an umbrella just in case is rains.

 

[Prometheus85]

Ok, i have zero doubt you know more on guns and how there used then i do.

But, that dont mean i cannot REASON as a human being.

You asked my job, i told you truck driver.

Even though your not a truck driver, i dont doubt you can make reasonable points about the job despite not doing it.

Also, look here

Trump sees veterans as the perfect armed teachers, but they're divided

This article says amongs veterans the opinion on arming teachers is varied.

So you saying im wrong because ive never been in a shootout and you are a combat trainer is not a strong enough point.

It says in the article “Nobody is going to attack that school. Because they know General Kelly is the history teacher. And he's got a concealed weapon,” Trump said.

Which brings me back to Chris Kyle.

• If Chris Kyle, a highly trained marksman, and good guy with a gun, was gunned down in a shooting range, surrounded by other good guys with guns… what makes you think an (at best) amateur marksman will fare better?

 

[Jollybear]

Holy crap @Jollybear thinks since salves were commodities they were treated well lol
Forget that the enslaved workers were dehumanized property with no rights to person, self-determination or respect for their familial bonds: at least they were “commodities”, &jollybear seems to be saying.

Wow

I didnt say they wer all treated well. You put those words in my mouth since your so smart.

 

[Jollybear]

If we arm teachers we are doing nothing more than admitting defeat. We would be accepting mass shootings as an unpreventable part of life that we cannot control. We would literally be saying "Oh well. It happens. Nothing you can do about it." Arming teachers would be no different than carrying an umbrella just in case is rains.

Well, how do we control it?