Arming teachers is a great idea

[Prometheus85]

What qualifies you to say all racists are dangerous? The same standard goes to you too pal.

I never said I’m qualified. I said I personally believe and gave an detailed explanation on why I believe racist are dangerous.

You on the other hand make statements like “not all racist people are dangerous” and backed it up with a even more insane statement like your superior to animals and don’t want to hurt them so therefore the same appiles to not being a dangerous racist.

So also according to your logic it’s cool to be a racist as long as you’re not dangerous if that makes any sense lol

 

[Jollybear]

“Go by what I say”

So basically you saying i should just agree with what u say and shut up??

No, thats also not what im saying.

Im saying if you dont understand me, why do you twist what i say rather then ask questions or counter my points?

Thats a troll. Your a troll.

 

[Jollybear]

I never said I’m qualified. I said I personally believe and gave an detailed explanation on why I believe racist are dangerous.

You on the other hand make statements like “not all racist people are dangerous” and backed it up with a even more insane statement like your superior to animals and don’t want to hurt them so therefore the same appiles to not being a dangerous racist.

So also according to your logic it’s cool to be a racist as long as you’re not dangerous if that makes any sense lol

You see what i mean by twist my words. I never said racism was cool. You just twist words too much. That tells me you dont want to understand what im saying because you put words in my mouth i never said or even implied. If you want to understand, why are you going outside what i say to you?

Yes, you explained why you believe all racists are dangerous, because the others are reduced to a thing, then you made the leap that this means hatred.

My question to you is, why does a white man seeing himself as superior to a black man ALWAYS have to equal hatred of said black man?

I believe im superior to animals, but i dont hate animals.

 

[Prometheus85]

No, thats also not what im saying.

Im saying if you dont understand me, why do you twist what i say rather then ask questions or counter my points?

Thats a troll. Your a troll.

Now your backpedaling and contradicting yourself

Because you perviously said why don’t you just “go by what I say”

And I am asking questions and countering what you say. And you responded by saying I’m twisting your words and calling me a troll.

Your backpedaling and contradicting yourself. I’m threw with this thread.

 

[Prometheus85]

You see what i mean by twist my words. I never said racism was cool. You just twist words too much. That tells me you dont want to understand what im saying because you put words in my mouth i never said or even implied. If you want to understand, why are you going outside what i say to you?

Yes, you explained why you believe all racists are dangerous, because the others are reduced to a thing, then you made the leap that this means hatred.

My question to you is, why does a white man seeing himself as superior to a black man ALWAYS have to equal hatred of said black man?

I believe im superior to animals, but i dont hate animals.

This....

 

[Jollybear]

Now your backpedaling and contradicting yourself

Because you perviously said why don’t you just “go by what I say”

And I am asking questions and countering what you say. And you responded by saying I’m twisting your words and calling me a troll.

Your backpedaling and contradicting yourself. I’m threw with this thread.

You see that!? I just told you what i meant by "go by what i say" and now your telling me thats not what i meant.

Thats proof right there your not interested in understanding and discussing or debating honestly, your only interested in trolling.

Well go somewhere else with that bull crap.

 

[Jollybear]

This....

This what?

 

[Prometheus85]

You see that!? I just told you what i meant by "go by what i say" and now your telling me thats not what i meant.

Thats proof right there your not interested in understanding and discussing or debating honestly, your only interested in trolling.

Well go somewhere else with that bull crap.

So when you say go by what I say you meant me asking questions and countering what you say which is what I have been doing. And you have been have been calling me a troll and accusing me of twisting your words because you have no adequate responses to my question or counters.

Your backpedaling now. When tell someone to go by what they say, your essentially telling that person to believe you. Now you completely change your position by saying you want me to ask questions and counter what you say, which is what i have been doing threw out this entire thread.

Your the one that’s not interested in having an honest debate.

 

[Prometheus85]

@Jollybear everybody on this thread has been questioning and countering what you said as well as ask for evidence backing up your claims and you have yet to deliver. Instead you have been ignoring those calls for evidence and responding with nonsensical arguments, which leads me to believe that you can’t fathom other people having beliefs that differ form your own so you dismiss them. That may be reason U use terms like “self evident” FYI what might be self evident to you, may not be self evident to other people.

 

[Revoltingest]

*Roll, you mean roll.

Did eye just do that?
Argch!

 

[Curious George]

Did eye just do that?
Argch!

Lol, sorry. It was the only grammatical error in the entire thread; so, I had to correct it.

Cheers

 

[Revoltingest]

Lol, sorry. It was the only grammatical error in the entire thread; so, I had to correct it.

Cheers

I completely understand.

 

[Jollybear]

@Jollybear everybody on this thread has been questioning and countering what you said as well as ask for evidence backing up your claims and you have yet to deliver. Instead you have been ignoring those calls for evidence and responding with nonsensical arguments, which leads me to believe that you can’t fathom other people having beliefs that differ form your own so you dismiss them. That may be reason U use terms like “self evident” FYI what might be self evident to you, may not be self evident to other people.

Im done with you. Im writing you off as compleyely dishonest and trolling.

 

[Prometheus85]

You see what i mean by twist my words. I never said racism was cool. You just twist words too much. That tells me you dont want to understand what im saying because you put words in my mouth i never said or even implied. If you want to understand, why are you going outside what i say to you?

Yes, you explained why you believe all racists are dangerous, because the others are reduced to a thing, then you made the leap that this means hatred.

My question to you is, why does a white man seeing himself as superior to a black man ALWAYS have to equal hatred of said black man?

I believe im superior to animals, but i dont hate animals.

You keep saying I’m superior to animals, but I don’t hate them. What does that mean? And how does that equate to racism?

Obviously when you see yourself as superior to another person you obviously have a very low opinion of the person you see as inferior to yourself. What the hell kind of stupid question is that. The nazis saw the Jews and everbody that wasn’t German as inferior and look how that turned out.

 

[Prometheus85]

Im done with you. Im writing you off as compleyely dishonest and trolling.

See I responded by countering and questioning what you said, just like u suggested and u dismissed it as trolling.

You don’t want have a honest debate. See ya

 

[Curious George]

I completely understand.

Lest you are unaware, I thought it was good of you to play ringmaster for a moment. The correction was only a joke given the spiraling tone of the thread.

Cheers

 

[Prometheus85]

@Jollybear you still it’s a good idea to arm teachers

David Swinyar Kernan Middle School: Jacksonville teacher used racial slur in conversation with students

 

[Jollybear]

You keep saying I’m superior to animals, but I don’t hate them. What does that mean? And how does that equate to racism?

Obviously when you see yourself as superior to another person you obviously have a very low opinion of the person you see as inferior to yourself. What the hell kind of stupid question is that. The nazis saw the Jews and everbody that wasn’t German as inferior and look how that turned out.

Im illustrating how a racist could be a racist but yet not be dangerous.

I believe animals are inferior to me, but that dont mean i hate them.

Its the same with some racists. They believe some ethnic groups are inferior to them but that dont mean they are dangerous in all cases.

 

[Revoltingest]

@Jollybear you still it’s a good idea to arm teachers

David Swinyar Kernan Middle School: Jacksonville teacher used racial slur in conversation with students

If using racial slurs mean that one shouldn't be armed, that would mean few cops & soldiers could carry arms.
And what about other kinds of slurs? Criminy, no one would be able.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Christ.....

My main goal in citing the racist teacher was to highlight the outlier which is the extremist teacher who may be qualified, and question whether we should arm such an individual. Given the general understanding of wanting to arm teachers who want to be armed, we have not thought about the extremist in this case. The OP alludes that if the teacher is qualified regardless of their belief system which in this case, white nationalism, it should not matter. My argument is thus that anyone who holds supremacist views in a multicultural setting is dangerous. In the case of the link I provided, the teacher willfully deceived the school system and yes you cannot prevent that, but at the same time this teacher kinda gave herself away by exposing her own views. This is the entire point that teachers should not be armed period because we may arm the wrong damn people! Teaching is a stressful job and anyone that is in college or high school knows that these classrooms are filled with stress. Stress in learning the material and stress in expressing the subject matter.

I don't like saying this but sometimes people should not be having serious discussions on online forums if they are going to go extremely left in something so simple.