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As a religious person, do you support the death penalty?

ninerbuff

godless wonder
Yet you have not presented anything that says that capital punishment is a no no.
Now if you were being honest you would acknowledge the fact that Most Christians believe their god is never changing.
Thus meaning that even in the NT he is not against capital punishment.

IF god was as against capital punishment as you want everyone to think, then why is there a punishment of death in the NT?

You are merely looking up verses that you think supports your claim and ignoring much of what Christians do and do not actually believe.
The bible will contradict itself over and over again. The christian god hates, then loves. Oh but wait, kill a baby, but thou shalt not kill, of course unless your a parent whose kid disobeyed him. But I defer to you. ;)
 

McBell

Unbound
The bible will contradict itself over and over again. The christian god hates, then loves. Oh but wait, kill a baby, but thou shalt not kill, of course unless your a parent whose kid disobeyed him. But I defer to you. ;)
Thank you for helping my point.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Why? It's no different than a christian telling a non christian to repent. Wouldn't you call that a double standard?

First of all, Christians believe we are ALL called to repent - ourselves first and foremost.

Secondly - if it BOTHERS you for a Christian to try to dictate to you what is right behavior, why are you doing exactly what you claim bothers you so much?

Wouldn't you call that a double standard?

And finally - Which Christians on this thread have told you or any other non Christian to repent? I may have missed that, but off the cuff I don't recall anyone telling you to do so.
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
Keeping prison systems active because there might be one innocent person amongst them is nonsense.

You`ve got to be kidding.

Killing innocents is the reason capitol punishment is a barbarous policy.

I`m constantly amazed at the lack of ethical fortitude in this forum.

Unreal.
 

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
Any last requests? Yes, I would like a bulletproof vest. :)

A bullet-proof vest won't do you any good if you're slated to die by lethal injection or hanging. Also, the gas-chamber nullifies the advantage provided by the bullet-proof vest.
 

dogsgod

Well-Known Member
You`ve got to be kidding.

Killing innocents is the reason capitol punishment is a barbarous policy.

I`m constantly amazed at the lack of ethical fortitude in this forum.

Unreal.
And it's not the only reason. Killing people because it's wrong to kill people is not the way to set the example that it's wrong to kill people.
 

Circle_One

Well-Known Member
I'm undecided on this subject. I have debated both sides of the coin and can convince myself either way. However, my arguements for both sides are so damn good, I can't choose a side, haha.
 

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
You`ve got to be kidding.

Killing innocents is the reason capitol punishment is a barbarous policy.

I`m constantly amazed at the lack of ethical fortitude in this forum.

Unreal.

Those executed by the state are not always innocent. Capital punishment reflects the barbaric nature of the crimes committed by prisoners. Does the system make mistakes? Of course it does. No system devised by man is ever perfect, nor is the threat of incarceration ever going to eliminate crime altogether.

How many times have the guilty been let off the hook when they should have paid the ultimate price for their actions? How many killers and rapists have escaped punishment because of technicalities or incompetence?
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
Those executed by the state are not always innocent. Capital punishment reflects the barbaric nature of the crimes committed by prisoners. Does the system make mistakes? Of course it does. No system devised by man is ever perfect, nor is the threat of incarceration ever going to eliminate crime altogether.

How many times have the guilty been let off the hook when they should have paid the ultimate price for their actions? How many killers and rapists have escaped punishment because of technicalities or incompetence?

So the collateral damage of the deaths of innocents is acceptable to you?
Have you ever had any dealings with the corrupt incompetent unethical power mad system of justice in the US ofA?

The system is a sham and people die because they can be used to promote personal enrichment for those in power.
Justice system!
What a ******* joke of a name.

The thought that the lives of innocents can be so easily snuffed out AND JUSTIFIED over some hysterical right wing paranoid cliche` is vile and disgusting.

The type of mind who could accept AND PROMOTE IT puts more fear into me than any murdering rapist ever has.
 

ninerbuff

godless wonder
First of all, Christians believe we are ALL called to repent - ourselves first and foremost.

Secondly - if it BOTHERS you for a Christian to try to dictate to you what is right behavior, why are you doing exactly what you claim bothers you so much?

Wouldn't you call that a double standard?

And finally - Which Christians on this thread have told you or any other non Christian to repent? I may have missed that, but off the cuff I don't recall anyone telling you to do so.
Lol, you haven't read ANY posts quoting scripture at all telling us non believers to repent? WOW. You must only read your own posts then.
And tell me when was the last time you had an atheist come to your door asking you to give up religion? But has a religious person ever came to your door preaching religion?
And last, how is it a double standard for me? If your god sets forth rules and they aren't being followed, and I point them out, that's just re enforcement. It's no different than an objection in a competitive game that has rules. If a rule is broken, and it could affect my "team" I will object and point it out.
The difference is "your games rules" are trying to be enforced by some to people who aren't even involved in it. Get it?
 

ninerbuff

godless wonder
I can appreciate that. I believe the whole idea of a death penalty is to promote fear.
If it works. There really is no evidence to show that it does.
That aside though, if I feel that a felon on death row has overwhelming and uncontested evidence that put them there, and they've ran all their appeals but nothing has changed, then put them to death.
I feel much more assured of more innocents not on death row because SCIENCE (forensics and DNA testing) is usually involved in many death row cases.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
I feel much more assured of more innocents not on death row because SCIENCE (forensics and DNA testing) is usually involved in many death row cases.
Then you watch too much CSI... the justice systems scientific endeavors are corrupt, underfunded, overburdened and inadequate.

Ultimately forensic science is only as good as the people and equipment involved.

wa:do
 

ninerbuff

godless wonder
Then you watch too much CSI... the justice systems scientific endeavors are corrupt, underfunded, overburdened and inadequate.

Ultimately forensic science is only as good as the people and equipment involved.

wa:do
Actually it's ID Discovery channel. Not into hollywood drama.
 
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