As I read the Quran, which parts should I ignore?

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

I personally see no defects in my belief system, but that's my opinion and view. I don't impose them on anyone, and I respect different opinions and views about it. I believe what matters is being friendly, not what one believes in without harming others.

Well we want to take advantage of your faith and explain to us the form of state that believes it will be an Islamic one hundred percent correct ???

 

[Smart_Guy]

Well said, and I hope more of your congregation think as you do.

At least I know my family members think the same

But yeah, we do need more people like that.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Okay, I'll play along.

Because they are people. People are not perfect.

Islamic state? You mean I S I S ? What do you mean by how do I want it? I don't want it.

Pattern Dash? I don't understand the question! Please revise it in good English.

*audi is a country, and I answered that above. Which means no, if it is hard to understand.

Look, if you know anyone that can help you in English, it is okay to refer to them. I can't get you point, and answering to unclear point only makes things worse.

Any English mean ???
I clear my words ??
What is the shape of the Islamic state in your faith ?
Is this a difficult question ??
isis is Daash
A forest of al-Qaeda
They also carry Wahhabi and Salafi Islamist
Or you want to regulations Islamist be as is the case in Saudi Arabia ?
We want to take advantage of you ?? J

 

[Smart_Guy]

Well we want to take advantage of your faith and explain to us the form of state that believes it will be an Islamic one hundred percent correct ???

I'm afraid a 100% correct Islamic form of state (as you described it) will not happen anytime soon. I think that will only happen when the Christ Jesus come back to earth. For now, all I'm looking forward to is specifically having a peaceful Muslim form of state all over the world, and generally peaceful world regardless of religion. I don't claim to be 100% correct. I lie sometimes, get angry, watch you know what, raise my voice, etc. I believe no human can be, but I'm trying to and believe others can try too.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Well said, and I hope more of your congregation think as you do.

He uses Altkaah Islamic us !!!!
We are talking about Islamic thought ??
Either reject this thought ??
Or acceptable to us and submit it as is without frills ????

 

[psychoslice]

At least I know my family members think the same

But yeah, we do need more people like that.

I know it must be hard for you, but sometimes we have to die for the good of the majority.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

I'm afraid a 100% correct Islamic form of state (as you described it) will not happen anytime soon. I think that will only happen when the Christ Jesus come back to earth. For now, all I'm looking forward to is specifically having a peaceful Muslim form of state all over the world, and generally peaceful world regardless of religion. I don't claim to be 100% correct. I lie sometimes, get angry, watch you know what, raise my voice, etc. I believe no human can be, but I'm trying to and believe others can try too.

What is this wonderful wrap it ??
If Christ came as saying the first people standing in front of him to get punished is Muhammad ??
Of course I do not believe in superstitions Islamic ??
For Christ did not know Muhammad?
Mohammed would be the first war criminals ?
Because of his teachings was the reason for the destruction of millions of human souls ???

 

[Smart_Guy]

Any English mean ???
This does not make sense

I clear my words ??
After reading them below, I think yes they are clear now.

What is the shape of the *slamic state in your faith ?
None so far. As I said before, I want it to be peaceful minding their own business for now. That if you mean general "*slamic state" above, not *aash.

Is this a difficult question ??
isis is *aash
A forest of al-*aeda
They also carry *ahhabi and *alafi Islamist
I don't like/want any of the above.

Or you want to regulations Islamist be as is the case in *audi *rabia ?
No.

We want to take advantage of you ??
That should be "We want to make use of your views" or something. The above is a negative expression

Sorry for censoring. I also would like to withdraw from this. Just getting so far threatens my life and the lives of those dear to me.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Sorry for censoring. I also would like to withdraw from this. Just getting so far threatens my life and the lives of those dear to me.

Your off-topic -
My life is owned by only one
He is God
And my dear is right

 

[Smart_Guy]

He uses Altkaah Islamic us !!!!
We are talking about Islamic thought ??
Either reject this thought ??
Or acceptable to us and submit it as is without frills ????

I'm afraid I don't get your point. What is Althaah?

If I knew better, I'd say it is some Jewish terminology?

What is this wonderful wrap it ??
If Christ came as saying the first people standing in front of him to get punished is Muhammad ??
Of course I do not believe in superstitions Islamic ??
For Christ did not know Muhammad?
Mohammed would be the first war criminals ?
Because of his teachings was the reason for the destruction of millions of human souls ???

I disagree!

But yes, Muhammad caused death of people simply for his existence, or rather, as it was a result somewhere along the way. Just as was the case with Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Bill Clinton... and so many other leaders. Leadership never end without blood in hands somewhere along the way. This is life, and it is harsh and not perfect.

 

[Smart_Guy]

I know it must be hard for you, but sometimes we have to die for the good of the majority.

Believe me I don't mind that, but the problem I have other great responsibilities and problems in such cases don't just affect me, but other because of me. I also wish I were strong enough to make some decisions, but I'm not

Your off-topic -
My life is owned by only one
He is God
And my dear is right

Please try harder to understand what I mean. Please!

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

I'm afraid I don't get your point. What is Althaah?



I disagree!

But yes, Muhammad caused death of people simply for his existence, or rather, as it was a result somewhere along the way. Just as was the case with Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Bill Clinton... and so many other leaders. Leadership never end without blood in hand somewhere along the way. This is life, and it is harsh and not perfect.

1. Altkaah you know a good word for you Arabic
2. Christ did not kill teaches murder
3. Moses did not witness the war and left to his successor, Joshua son of Nun
4-- Ibrahim did not fight and did not give us the law of fighting
5. Mohammed is only aware of who was killed and people fighting
6. Do you think that Mohammed is like Nero

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Believe me I don't mind that, but the problem I have other great responsibilities and problems in such cases don't just affect me, but other because of me. I also wish I were strong enough to make some decisions, but I'm not



Please try harder to understand what I mean. Please!

I know what you mean well !!!
And I Aahtm him !!
I told you that my life is owned by only one
And my dear is right
This is the pink you
With all due respect and love

 

[gnostic]

Muslim has two sides ???
First he says he rejects slavery ???
But he also accepted ??
Because the Koran did not abolish slavery ??

If Muhammad didn't want slaves, then why take slaves in the first place?

And he was their leader. He could have stop the selling of Qurayza's women and children, but he didn't. And I think the reason why Muhammad didn't stop slavery is possibly money.

Muhammad and his followers have been raiding caravans for several years before the Qurayza incidence. And there is only possible reason for raiding caravans - loots. You can't make wars or raids without some sort of payments to soldiers or warriors, whether that payment are in loots or in war captives. Slaves are worth far more than any caravan.

That could possibly be the motive for Muhammad not stopping slavery.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

If Muhammad didn't want slaves, then why take slaves in the first place?

And he was their leader. He could have stop the selling of Qurayza's women and children, but he didn't. And I think the reason why Muhammad didn't stop slavery is possibly money.

Muhammad and his followers have been raiding caravans for several years before the Qurayza incidence. And there is only possible reason for raiding caravans - loots. You can't make wars or raids without some sort of payments to soldiers or warriors, whether that payment are in loots or in war captives. Slaves are worth far more than any caravan.

That could possibly be the motive for Muhammad not stopping slavery.

That's right a hundred percent ??
Mohammed did not reject the slaves ?
It was approved by ??
So what 's new in the Islamic religion ?
Thank yo

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

The question is why Muslims deny this ??
Is from the teachings of the Islamic religion ??
Why do not ............ truth as it is ?

 

[gnostic]

As far I know, no religion had abolished slavery.

 

[Smart_Guy]

1. Altkaah you know a good word for you Arabic
2. Christ did not kill teaches murder
3. Moses did not witness the war and left to his successor, Joshua son of Nun
4-- Ibrahim did not fight and did not give us the law of fighting
5. Mohammed is only aware of who was killed and people fighting
6. Do you think that Mohammed is like Nero

1. التكآه؟ Why don't you just type it in Arabic here? You're making things worse. Is this a plan to make me look bad?
2- And the Crusaders? The Spanish Inquisition? All by Christians, and who brought Christianity? I don't blame Jesus of course.
3- The example above is enough.
4- Ditto.
5- Doing and causing are the same things. You are talking about teachings here.
6- Who's Nero? My translator does not give a meaning.

I know what you mean well !!!
And I Aahtm him !!
I told you that my life is owned by only one
And my dear is right
This is the pink you
With all due respect and love

Hey, who are you calling pink?



What's an Aahtm?

 

[Union]

"Uprooted"? Uprooted is not the same thing as "abolishing" slavery.

Again, nothing in the Qur'an say that Islam has abolished slavery. Slavery is still permissible in the Qur'an, whether it be buying, selling or taking slave from wars.

Slavery has been operating in many ancient and medieval civilisations, including Muhammad's own time.

And manumission or emancipation (freeing a slave or slaves) is not uncommon, and have occurred long before Muhammad's time.

Muhammad himself has owned slaves before, and had first choice of who to take as slaves, and he would take the most beautiful captive as slave. Just because he released.

And Muhammad permitted women and children to be sold in slave market after the Banu Qurayza had surrendered, while the men that didn't covert to Islam were beheaded (as little as 600, or as many 900 were beheaded, depending on the sources). Muhammad was there, but he did nothing to stop this from happening.

'Free Slaves' = Uprooting Slavery . [Ref.Quran , 2.177,4.92,5.89,58.3,58.4,4.25,24.33 ect.]

 

[Union]

Muslim has two sides ???
First he says he rejects slavery ???
But he also accepted ??
Because the Koran did not abolish slavery ??

'Free Slaves' = Uprooting Slavery . [Ref.Quran , 2.177,4.92,5.89,58.3,58.4,4.25,24.33 ect.]