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As of this moment, who would you vote for in the Republican nomination?

RF Republican Primary Poll. As of now, who would you vote for in the RNC primary?

  • Donald Trump

  • Jeb Bush

  • Scott Walker

  • Marco Rubio

  • Ben Carson

  • Ted Cruz

  • Mike Huckabee

  • Rand Paul

  • Carli Fiorina

  • Other


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Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
Frankly, this is why I could not vote for him. He has never shown the slightest interest in public service that I know about. If he wants to do that, he is already in a position to get on with it. He has always been a "Take care of Trump first" kind of guy.

He, more than any other candidate, would benefit hugely, directly, and personally from expanding the wealth and power of the 1%. I don't think he'd have any qualms about doing that at the expense of the rest of us. I am confident that he would operate from the position "What's good for Wall Street is good for America", and would never even question that assumption.
The USA would quicken its slide towards a 3rd world economy and culture under Trump.
Tom

I don't have anything against the "1%". Donald Trump strikes me as a man willing to help out and fight for the things and people he cares about, in this case it would be the United States and the American people. The other rich guy or "1%center" in this race is (Democrat) Bernie Sanders, but he's too old, a wimp, and an admitted socialist, which is fine, however, the US is not a socialist nation, it is a capitalistic representative republic which is what made it one of the largest and fastest growing economies in the world in its first 100 years. The last thing we need is a socialist or another wimp in the white house. Talk about turning America into another 3rd world economy, oh hell no. :smirkcat: The rest of the candidates just seem to fall short to me and/or are establishment politicians, same old, same old, all talk, do nothing but the will of their special interest donors and owners.
 
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Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
I also think that Carli Fiorina would make a great vice president of the USA, far better than Joe Biden, Al Gore, or lol Dan Quayle ever thought of being. She is smart, articulate, and not afraid to make the hard decisions you sometimes have to make as an executive. She may have sort of a crackling voice, but her intelligence, likeable personality, and command of the issues allows me to overlook certain minor "flaws". Plus, she could satisfy, albeit a minority of the feminist vote, politically speaking. In other words; she could help tip the balance.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I also think that Carli Fiorina would make a great vice president of the USA, far better than Joe Biden, Al Gore, or lol Dan Quayle ever thought of being. She is smart, articulate, and not afraid to make the hard decisions you sometimes have to make as an executive. She may have sort of a crackling voice, but her intelligence, likeable personality, and command of the issues allows me to overlook certain minor "flaws". Plus, she could satisfy, albeit a minority of the feminist vote, politically speaking. In other words; she could help tip the balance.
Dan Quayle had one shining agenda....tort reform.
I suspect that's the real reason he was so quickly savaged.
Taking the food from the mouths of lawyers & judges is unsafe.

Anyway, I voted for Rand Paul.
More Constitution, less war.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Imagine how tough it must be for Dems with Hillary falling & Biden's star rising.

I hadn't considered that anyone could view that as a grim outcome, but yeah, probably ain't feeling great on the Clinton campaign right about now, while I imagine the Sanders campaign has had more than one celebration.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I hadn't considered that anyone could view that as a grim outcome, but yeah, probably ain't feeling great on the Clinton campaign right about now, while I imagine the Sanders campaign has had more than one celebration.
It's grim because Sanders will have trouble if he's in the general election.
In the primaries, candidates cater to the party members, but in the general election,
they must win a majority of the entire country.....tough sell for an avowed socialist.
So Dems are faced with 3 likely possibilities......
- A Pub win
- A Biden win
- A Hillary win
Aren't all 3 scary?
Hillary is the "Tricky Dick" (Nixon) of our age.....considered untrustworthy by many.
Biden isn't running on all cylinders.
And the leading Pub is Trump.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
It's grim because Sanders will have trouble if he's in the general election.
In the primaries, candidates cater to the party members, but in the general election,
they must win a majority of the entire country.....tough sell for an avowed socialist.
So Dems are faced with 3 likely possibilities......
- A Pub win
- A Biden win
- A Hillary win
Aren't all 3 scary?
Hillary is the "Tricky Dick" (Nixon) of our age.....considered untrustworthy by many.
Biden isn't running on all cylinders.
And the leading Pub is Trump.

I think the consensus on Sanders is wrong. The guy has much broader apeal than many give him credit for. I hear many republicans who badmouth Trump as a clown respecting Sanders. That tells me those on the fringes of the Republican party and undecideds could go his way. I could see women and minorities voting for him. He might be socialist, but at least he's not Trump.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think the consensus on Sanders is wrong. The guy has much broader apeal than many give him credit for. I hear many republicans who badmouth Trump as a clown respecting Sanders. That tells me those on the fringes of the Republican party and undecideds could go his way. I could see women and minorities voting for him. He might be socialist, but at least he's not Trump.
I don't know how many is the "many" you claim.
Elections will quantify it all eventually.
Nonetheless, I think the scenarios I posited are all within the realm of reasonable possibility, thus making for a grim picture.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
I don't know how many is the "many" you claim.
Elections will quantify it all eventually.
Nonetheless, I think the scenarios I posited are all within the realm of reasonable possibility, thus making for a grim picture.

I work at a company that makes equipment for coal power plants. 99% of the employees are dyed in the wool republicans. The many are among my co-workers.

But you could be right. We shall see.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
It's grim because Sanders will have trouble if he's in the general election.
In the primaries, candidates cater to the party members, but in the general election,
they must win a majority of the entire country.....tough sell for an avowed socialist.
So Dems are faced with 3 likely possibilities......
- A Pub win
- A Biden win
- A Hillary win
Aren't all 3 scary?
Hillary is the "Tricky Dick" (Nixon) of our age.....considered untrustworthy by many.
Biden isn't running on all cylinders.
And the leading Pub is Trump.

I think Sanders has a better chance in a general election than he does in the primary. I don't expect many Dem's would switch sides for Sanders, unless there was some of moderation Republican. I mean, if things keep going the way they do for the Pubs, with the whole Trump debacle, I hardly imagine any circumstance in which Republicans are going to win this election.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Kasich. He's done right by my state of Ohio, and he's not a frothing at the mouth conservative like Walker or Cruz, and he's not an a-hole like Trump.
hes the only one who has any shred of electability
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
At this point in time I am for Donald Trump, I love how he had that talk show host Jorge Ramos from Univision posing as a journalist kicked out of his press conference when Ramos refused to wait his turn. But let him back in and annihilated Ramos in their exchange. Trump is not only electable he is awesome. Hail, Trump, the anti-establishment candidate, who can afford to speak his mind!
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think Sanders has a better chance in a general election than he does in the primary. I don't expect many Dem's would switch sides for Sanders, unless there was some of moderation Republican. I mean, if things keep going the way they do for the Pubs, with the whole Trump debacle, I hardly imagine any circumstance in which Republicans are going to win this election.
Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future.
Niels Bohr
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Trump.

He's the perfect wild card here that breaks the typical entrenched, and out of touch self serving career politiction mold.

He's no pushover, and his success proves so far that he can at least potentially steer the country back into a modicum of prosperity.

Worth at least a shot here. I'll definitely vote for him.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Trump.

He's the perfect wild card here that breaks the typical entrenched, and out of touch self serving career politiction mold.

He's no pushover, and his success proves so far that he can at least potentially steer the country back into a modicum of prosperity.

Worth at least a shot here. I'll definitely vote for him.
how? he got rich by costing people there jobs. hes an idiot. mexico is not sending illegals, he is a disrespectful *** hole who would turn the world against us.

does he even have a viable plan? no
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
how? he got rich by costing people there jobs. hes an idiot. mexico is not sending illegals, he is a disrespectful *** hole who would turn the world against us.

does he even have a viable plan? no

Trump may be a lot of things, but is no idiot. I haven't read it yet, but Trump supposedly lays out a lot of his solutions and plans in his recent book "Time To Get Tough". I am going to get it this weekend and read it.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Trump may be a lot of things, but is no idiot. I haven't read it yet, but Trump supposedly lays out a lot of his solutions and plans in his recent book "Time To Get Tough". I am going to get it this weekend and read it.
please respond to, "how? he got rich by costing people there jobs. hes an idiot. mexico is not sending illegals, he is a disrespectful *** hole who would turn the world against us," he is wrong about mexico/mexicans, he has no tact or diplomacy, and makes money at the expense of american workers and insitutions, how does any of that make him presidential material.

i look forward to your review of his book.
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
please respond to, "how? he got rich by costing people there jobs. hes an idiot. mexico is not sending illegals, he is a disrespectful *** hole who would turn the world against us," he is wrong about mexico/mexicans, he has no tact or diplomacy, and makes money at the expense of american workers and insitutions, how does any of that make him presidential material.

i look forward to your review of his book.

"Costing people their jobs", he employs thousands of people. No, Mexico is not sending illegals, they are coming of their own volition. And most are probably good people, but a lot of them are criminals with nefarious backgrounds. "Disrespectful *** hole", well that is a matter of opinion. :smileycat: He must have some sort of tact and diplomacy skills as he wrote the book on "The Art Of The Deal". He "makes money at the expense of American workers and institutions", this statement is rather confusing Iti, what, he makes money by hiring and employing American workers? Well, hell of course he does.

I'll let you know what I think of his book.
 
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