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ppp

ppp

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MyM said:
sighs,

to you it hasn't because you don't want to accept it. The Quranic scientific evidences are all throughout that video yet you get on the guy for his belief about evolution.....am talkin about EVIDENCES FROM QURAN.
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I accept all sorts of things I don't want to accept, and reject things that I want to believe, son. I don't believe that guy because he did not make a competent case.

The Koran is a book. Evidences do not come from books. Evidences come from study of the actual thing in question, with quantifiable measurements. I would not accept the theory of relativity without real world predictive power and measurable evidence.
 
MyM

MyM

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Policy said:
I accept all sorts of things I don't want to accept, and reject things that I want to believe, son. I don't believe that guy because he did not make a competent case.

The Koran is a book. Evidences do not come from books. Evidences come from study of the actual thing in question, with quantifiable measurements. I would not accept the theory of relativity without real world predictive power and measurable evidence.
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The Quran is not just a book. It is a book of many things. One of them being scientific evidences if only people would understand.

Then again, Allah says in the Quran that it is a book for the understanding.
 
ppp

ppp

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MyM said:
The Quran is not just a book. It is a book of many things. One of them being scientific evidences if only people would understand.

Then again, Allah says in the Quran that it is a book for the understanding.
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Scientific evidence can be related by books, but it is independent of books.
 
MyM

MyM

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Policy said:
Citation needed.
What have I said to mock your religion?
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If you haven't my bad, sorry, but Sheldon has and many others who are haters.

If they don't believe, they do criticize, change the subject-which shows-degrade, humiliate and mock. It's been proven that many people see it. It isn't a matter of debate. It's how they go about debating and being superior over everyone else. They hate to be confronted. If you don't fit on their scale of things, you are rubbish and ridiculous. It's what they do.
 
ppp

ppp

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MyM said:
If you don't like what I am saying, then go out of this thread and bother other people. I didn't make this thread to be about evolution which athiests always turn it out to be. You claim people as inferior to your beliefs because you don't think they make any sense. You are entitled, but why disrupt a thread of sincerity about Islam for people who want to learn about Islam. Then when challenges are sent your way, you cannot even face them.

Talking in degradational remarks as if the person is crap and stupid, doesn't make you any the more smart.
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I am sorry you feel that way.
 
muhammad_isa

muhammad_isa

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Sheldon said:
HE claimed it was just an hypothesis, it has been an accepted scientific theory in good standing for over 162 years.
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What has?
You completely ignored what I just told you.
..but then. I'm not surprised. You have preconceived ideas, and just keep repeating mumbo-jumbo. :D
 
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muhammad_isa

muhammad_isa

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Sheldon said:
1) Do you know that in science a theory and an hypothesis are wildly different things?
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What is the theory of evolution?
Doesn't it have many different parts?

Your "sweeping brush" is not an honest appraisal of the facts.
SOME of the theory is proven, while other parts are not.
 
Sheldon

Sheldon

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muhammad_isa said:
What has?
You completely ignored what I just told you.
..but then. I'm not surprised. You have preconceived ideas, and just keep repeating mumbo-jumbo. :D
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Nonsense, this was your claim...
muhammad_isa said:
I agree with him. It is unproven conjecture. ToE is a sprawling beast, which attempts to show that mankind is no different from any other creature.
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This was my response....
Sheldon said: ↑
HE claimed it was just an hypothesis, it has been an accepted scientific theory in good standing for over 162 years.
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So your claim is untrue, as nothing was ignored, except your straw man that about what evolution "attempts to show", as that is so obviously false there was little need to point it out.
 
KWED

KWED

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MyM said:
It wasn't proven. So why do you claim it as truth?
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"Evolution" is real. The fact that species evolve is an observable fact, like erosion or tree rings.
The "theory of" evolution is the explanation for how evolution happens. It describes the mechanisms and processes involved, for which there is a huge body of supporting evidence.

Think of it like this.
Gravity is real, agreed?
If you jump out of a window you will plummet to the ground. It is an observable fact. You cannot doubt gravity.
And yet, there is a "theory of gravity". Does that mean you can jump out of a window and not fall, because it's Only A Theory™?

Hope this helped.
 
MyM

MyM

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Policy said:
I didn't not care if it sings, dances and does card tricks. Books are not and cannot be evidence of their claims.
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You don't need science to prove the Quran. The Quran however has proven evidences of science that no man has ever known or have come to light until recently. It speaks for itself. There are many inside the Quran however and the scientists themselves recognize this. You don't have to believe it or not, but it's FACT.
 
muhammad_isa

muhammad_isa

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Sheldon said:
This was my response....
HE claimed it was just an hypothesis, it has been an accepted scientific theory in good standing for over 162 years.

So your claim is untrue, as nothing was ignored, except your straw man that about what evolution "attempts to show", as that is so obviously false there was little need to point it out.
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Errr .. no.
The theory of evolution has been developing over time, and is not constant.
Some of it is proven, whilst some is not.
 
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Sheldon

Sheldon

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muhammad_isa said:
What is the theory of evolution?
Doesn't it have many different parts?

Your "sweeping brush" is not an honest appraisal of the facts.
SOME of the theory is proven, while other parts are not.
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Nice try but he said evolution is just an hypothesis, if you want to take the sweeping nature of the claim to task, direct it at the idiot in the video, all I did was point out the idiocy of his false claim. Since in science an hypothesis is very different from a theory? Unless you're claiming otherwise? I made no comment about anything that is not part of the accepted scientific theory of evolution, so that's a straw man.
 
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