Jumi
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I think many ancient gods had them, supposedly they also had children with people like Zeus with Europa.I usually TRY to use the pronoun "it" instead of "he" ... because I don't think gods have human genitals or sex.
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I think many ancient gods had them, supposedly they also had children with people like Zeus with Europa.I usually TRY to use the pronoun "it" instead of "he" ... because I don't think gods have human genitals or sex.
Ancient party animal type gods seem like a much more fun crowd than the modern ones.I think many ancient gods had them, supposedly they also had children with people like Zeus with Europa.
I think many ancient gods had them, supposedly they also had children with people like Zeus with Europa.
I don't think they rely on sex drugs and beer. They are still people and I know it's just my opinion but I always thought the atheist life sounded depressing. Not believing in a deity or spirits of anything, strictly focusing on science and materialism, not even believing in the afterlife or reincarnation and basically not believing in too many things unless there's total proof of it's existence. What do they look forward to when they pass on? Not even getting a chance to see their families again or the afterlife or reincarnate? Not all atheists are like that but quite a few are. It just seems narrow and depressing to me.
What about a faith in kindness or love?I think it's important to believe in something. Doesn't matter as long as you have some kind of belief and faith. Not too many people I know are happy without some kind of faith.
I don't think they rely on sex drugs and beer. They are still people and I know it's just my opinion but I always thought the atheist life sounded depressing. Not believing in a deity or spirits of anything, strictly focusing on science and materialism, not even believing in the afterlife or reincarnation and basically not believing in too many things unless there's total proof of it's existence. What do they look forward to when they pass on? Not even getting a chance to see their families again or the afterlife or reincarnate? Not all atheists are like that but quite a few are. It just seems narrow and depressing to me.
Some atheists are spiritual, though. One does not have to believe in a god in order to believe in other kinds of spirits or the human soul.Religious people have their God/gods to rely on. During difficult times they can seek help in mosque church synagogue or whatever, but atheists rely only on sex drugs alcohol for "spiritual comfort".
I think it's important to believe in something. Doesn't matter as long as you have some kind of belief and faith. Not too many people I know are happy without some kind of faith. Not believing in an afterlife means you have nothing to look forward to. Besides what do you think animated your body in the first place? Energy, or a soul, did that. Much like electricity powers up a robot. That energy has to go somewhere once it leaves it's host. Not to mention the tons of stories you hear who have near-death experiences by seeing their families and leaving their body. But I guess they all just made that up for no reason right?
Reincarnation shouldn't even be that implausible even for an atheist. Matter can't be destroyed. Nothing is every really destroyed, but basically recycled into something else.
You see, this is the kind of thing that pretty much only theists say. You are unable to see how you would cope with your life without some kind of faith, and then you imagine that everyone else is in the same position. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.
I think it's important to believe in something. Doesn't matter as long as you have some kind of belief and faith. Not too many people I know are happy without some kind of faith. Not believing in an afterlife means you have nothing to look forward to. Besides what do you think animated your body in the first place? Energy, or a soul, did that. Much like electricity powers up a robot. That energy has to go somewhere once it leaves it's host. Not to mention the tons of stories you hear who have near-death experiences by seeing their families and leaving their body. But I guess they all just made that up for no reason right?
Reincarnation shouldn't even be that implausible even for an atheist. Matter can't be destroyed. Nothing is every really destroyed, but basically recycled into something else.
Not to mention many atheists and materialists forget that the greatest scientists such as George Washington Carver, Leonardo da Vinci and Isaac Newton also happened to have religious backgrounds and openly practiced magic and mysticism. There were SCIENTISTS yet even they were open minded enough to accept such things. And no it's not that they were religious because that's what the norm was. There were atheists back then, even before their time, yet these scientists practiced spiritual energy work and these are scientists that our scientists look up to.
But believing helps. If it didn't, people wouldn't do it in the first place. If there wasn't a sliver of truth in religion or magic, you wouldn't see anyone DO that kind of stuff. Disbelieving because the evidence is not there right in front of their face seems narrow-minded to me. Some atheists act like they traveled all over the universe in search of God and couldn't find him. The idea of a higher power really shouldn't sound impossible.
The thing is that back in those days, not only was it completely unaccaptable to be openly atheist, but the very notion of studying the Universe was, itself, considered a spiritual or religious endeavour. It was largely unquestionable that the Universe was God's work, and therefore it was natural that the objective study of nature and the laws of our Universe were fundamentally an effort to study and understand "God's design". That's why so many great scientific and mathematical breakthroughs and discoveries in ancient history were made by religious individuals and organizations. Understanding reality was generally regarded as a religious endeavour.Not to mention many atheists and materialists forget that the greatest scientists such as George Washington Carver, Leonardo da Vinci and Isaac Newton also happened to have religious backgrounds and openly practiced magic and mysticism. There were SCIENTISTS yet even they were open minded enough to accept such things. And no it's not that they were religious because that's what the norm was. There were atheists back then, even before their time, yet these scientists practiced spiritual energy work and these are scientists that our scientists look up to.
Correction: believing helpED. Back then it was just easier to imagine a world designed by intelligence and pervaded by spirits than a world guided by physical and chemical laws that was purely materialistic. Nowadays, we know enough about the Universe to be able to question that idea, and see the possibility that the Universe is unguided. Science is no longer considered a religious endeavour, and has improved vastly since separating from it. Fact is, belief no longer is a requirement.But believing helps. If it didn't, people wouldn't do it in the first place.
Sure. And if there wasn't a sliver a truth in what Hitler believed, he wouldn't have enacted the holocaust. People act on misguided ideas and falsities all the time. It doesn't indicate any truth value of anything.If there wasn't a sliver of truth in religion or magic, you wouldn't see anyone DO that kind of stuff.
That is the very definition of credulity. It is not narrow-minded to disbelieve something when you have no good reason to believe it, and it is not a virtue to believe things that you have no good reason to believe.Disbelieving because the evidence is not there right in front of their face seems narrow-minded to me.
I've rarely, if ever, heard an atheist assert that the existence of a higher power is impossible. That's nothing but a straw man.Some atheists act like they traveled all over the universe in search of God and couldn't find him. The idea of a higher power really shouldn't sound impossible.
By the way,why do you still spell god the wayconservative euro jews do,as you have almost nothing in common ?
Yeah it is important to have faith in something. Not to mention in my opinion I think it's rather arrogant to believe that there isn't a power greater than us, whether it's a spirit, God or something else and think that because it's not right in front of their faces, it must not exist. You see germs all around us. Does it mean that they didn't exist until we invented a microscope? No, they always existed, but we needed a lense to see it. Atheists don't seem to put much effort into finding out if spirits exist, despite demanding irrefutable proof, such as maybe doing what believers do, such as rituals, meditations ect. Has it ever occurred to them that the Third Eye, is the "lense" they need to see spirits? Rather most of them say "Nope they don't exist because it doesn't say so in my text book."
I don't feel as if I'm helpless without my faith, it just helps a lot. Having faith in something gives us hope.
Notice how strange it is that when some atheists have problems like when their relatives in the hospital, they start praying? I've seen that happen more times than I can count. So no, you're incorrect to think that's the only thing theists say.
This feels like a shotgun with bullets going in all directions trying to land a hit somewhere.
This is a rehash of the some of the worst arguments that have been used against atheism.
And yet you have no retort. If this argument had that many holes, surely even you could have pointed them out but instead you resort to "This is stupid...just because."