Atheists: If there's no God, then where did the world come from?

[Sum1sGruj]

When was the last time you even admitted to yourself that you were wrong about something??

I do admit when I'm wrong,, when I'm wrong.
When have any of you atheists ever admit to being wrong, or not considered someone delusional because they differ?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

But reality exists, therefore God created us. All I see you doing is calling it illogical, but you cannot give a logical explanation why this isn't the case.

Because it's committing a logical fallacy.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

And trust me, it's definitely not because atheists hate creationists.

Or that atheists hate Christians.

 

[Sum1sGruj]

Because it's committing a logical fallacy.

The only logical fallacy is condemning truth to 'proof' simply because it cannot be seen with the naked eye. We know gravity exists, but we can only see the effects,, and so we know the universe began, we cannot see from what.
What more proof is there? The question is how is it a logical fallacy. It's solid logic, whatever created reality does not follow suit with a 'beginning' and had no 'cause'.

 

[RitalinO.D.]

The only logical fallacy is condemning truth to 'proof' simply because it cannot be seen with the naked eye. We know gravity exists, but we can only see the effects,, and so we know the universe began, we cannot see from what.

So this automatically makes you assume God did it? You have terrible reasoning skills if that is where you are lead every time you experience something you cannot see.

Suppose God created radio waves too eh?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I do admit when I'm wrong,, when I'm wrong.
When have any of you atheists ever admit to being wrong, or not considered someone delusional because they differ?

That wasn't the question. I asked when the last time you admitted you were wrong. That means I'm asking for a date / time, even a ballpark figure.

You could have thought you were wrong ten years ago, once. Personally, I don't think that you've admitted you were wrong in quite a long time.

And people don't think that you're delusional because you "differ." You're delusional because you're thinking is so irratic and you use words like "logic" with no regard for its common definition.

It's like you're calling something "logic" in a misguided effort to make your opinions more respectable. You're not fooling anyone.

 

[Sum1sGruj]

So this automatically makes you assume God did it? You have terrible reasoning skills if that is where you are lead every time you experience something you cannot see.

Suppose God created radio waves too eh?

Suppose nothing made everything.
Right.

Zero reason, that is what you all are presenting, thinking that truth has to have some kind of 'use'.
And I said that I believe my god did it, but I never said that is Him. Another desperation on you alls part.

In fact, I was very adament about the traits such a thing would need and entertained the idea extensively.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Suppose nothing made everything.
Right.

Zero reason, that is what you all are presenting, thinking that truth has to have some kind of 'use'.
And I said that I believe my god did it, but I never said that is Him. Another desperation on you alls part.

Dude, if you're going to try and replace rhetoric with logic, you have to be good at rhetoric first. Really good.

 

[Sum1sGruj]

Dude, if you're going to try and replace rhetoric with logic, you have to be good at rhetoric first. Really good.

There is no logic in reality beginning. That is the most ignorant part of you all's argument. You all seem to think that whatever created reality could even be damned to follow the same laws of our universe. Keep holding on to the term and you would have officially made your argument a fallacy in itself. Wait, you already did.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

And I said that I believe my god did it, but I never said that is Him.

Come on, man. That's not even good semantics, and it is a misrepresentation of what you said.

You said that you think that it is a "sure bet" that the Abrahamic God created everything.

Wiggling out of your own clear statements is impossible. If you don't think that it "is Him," then you should delete or edit the post.

Here's a link:

It may not be my God, but the Abrahamic God seems the most prevalent one in the world to me. So it's a safe bet in my opinion.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

There is no logic in reality beginning. That is the most ignorant part of you all's argument. You all seem to think that whatever created reality could even be damned to follow the same laws of our universe. Keep holding on to the term and you would have officially made your argument a fallacy in itself. Wait, you already did.

I see you have another word to exploit.

 

[Willamena]

Suppose nothing made everything.
Right.

Right. What is "nothing"? A non-answer.

 

[Sum1sGruj]

Come on, man. That's not even good semantics, and it is a misrepresentation of what you said.

You said that you think that it is a "sure bet" that the Abrahamic God created everything.

Wiggling out of your own clear statements is impossible. If you don't think that it "is Him," then you should delete or edit the post.

Yeah, what I think. Should I re-post the contrary or are you going to be man enough to accept that I never said it had to be my god?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Yeah, what I think. Should I re-post the contrary or are you going to be man enough to accept that I never said it had to be my god?

:biglaugh: I already said what you should do.

It's not my fault that you don't like being caught being dishonest.

AND I didn't say that you said that it HAD to be the Abrahamic God, but that you thought that it was and you said you didn't think so later.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

OK, so you were wrong about Einstein's belief in "god."

I'd like to see you demonstrate that Einstein believed in a "static universe."

What you've said so far demonstrates that you have never read anything ever written about or by Einstein.

I suspect that you got that off of some idiot Christian website or you misremembered it.

 

[Sum1sGruj]

I never siad it was my God, for one. I stated it is simply something of infinite being and will. This could be one, or perhaps several beings. It could be my God or simply a nameless maker. It could even be a gopher, king of the expanse.

Right. You all have been holding on to that. Whenever you all are wrong about something, you spam the thread with straw mans.
And your a staff member to, in which you can't even follow the rules you try to enforce. So if call someone and *******, it's restriction for me, but you can call someone ignorant and it's all apricots and caterpillars.

So I have no respect for you or anything that you say about my fortitude as a Christian. So good luck with your logical fallacy about how reality came from something that adheres to the rules of science

 

[angellous_evangellous]

So I have no respect for you or anything that you say about my fortitude as a Christian.

You realize that you're quoting yourself?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

That's exactly my point. You're in denial.
So I'll have to go with 'grow up'.

Even Einstein believed in a god and he believed in a static universe. You all seem to think that science and god cannot both be correct and that was your flaw from the get-go.
Whatever, maybe some you really shouldn't be on a religious site with that kind of ridiculous anti-god attitude. The sum of all of you is a big, giant troll.

OK, obviously you know nothing of Einstien. I can't wait for you to try and explain the static universe theory, and I don't want anyone else to beat me to the punch:

Static universe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to Gamow this led Einstein to declare this cosmological model, and especially the introduction of the cosmological constant, his "biggest blunder".[1]

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I expect frubals for that.

 

[Sum1sGruj]

He didn't believe in a personal god. But I wouldn't expect someone as shallow as some of you are to know the difference.

Stupid straw mans.

It shows that you can't admit that you are not the world order of intellect.
Serioulsy, how old are some of you, for real? I'm on 4 different forums, and I gotta tell you, some people on here act like they are 5 years old. Get a grip.

What does 'nothing' being a non-answer have to with me? That is what you all are concluding behind your logic wheter you realize it or not. What a ****** joke.