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angellous_evangellous
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doppelgänger;2461704 said:
Yes, it is. I consider it an art too. But the historians have been trying to puff themselves up by calling their methods "criticisms."
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Atheists: If there's no God, then where did the world come from?
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Yes, it is. I consider it an art too. But the historians have been trying to puff themselves up by calling their methods "criticisms."
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
You mean "Spinoza"? If so, I'd like to see you cite to where he wrote about this purported belief you're ascribing to him.
Sum1sGruj
Active Member
See.. that's were you are wrong. God was metaphorical in the sense that nothing created the universe, in Spinova's idea. It is it's own god.
But the universe had a beginning, physics now know this.
So, your idea is completely unfounded, and it actually reinforces my claims.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
It's easier to get grants that way.Yes, it is. I consider it an art too. But the historians have been trying to puff themselves up by calling their methods "criticisms."
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angellous_evangellous
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You shouldn't wonder then why some people think that you're delusional.
If my idea is unfounded, do you want to pretend that it reinforces your claims??
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angellous_evangellous
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doppelgänger;2461709 said:
I wanna get me some.
Sum1sGruj
Active Member
doppelgänger;2461706 said:
Baruch Spinoza (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
I swear, you all are scribes when it comes to straw mans. Truly mastered the art, I see. You all are reaching now, and I'm starting to feel pity.
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angellous_evangellous
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Good. I need all the pity I can get.
Encyclopedias are worthless if you don't know how to use them.
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angellous_evangellous
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doppelgänger;2461706 said:
Best of luck, dopp. :biglaugh:
He's already been busted on his abuse of Einstein, and refuses to admit that he was wrong. It's both painful to watch and a little entertaining.
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angellous_evangellous
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Dopp is smarter than you, btw.
I recall my first day in my Ph.D. program when a senior student warned me on how to treat other students -- you may be right when you criticize, but you could find out that they are smarter than you and kick your butt somewhere public.
What does it mean to say that a non-personal thing has a "will"?
Sum1sGruj
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angellous_evangellous
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It's true, man. It's like posting a short definition of a word from Webster's and then abusing it in an argument.
(It's also obvious that you didn't even bother to read the article in the first place)
RitalinO.D.
Well-Known Member
Do you believe in Santa Claus? Easter Bunny? Peter Pan? If not, why? What makes believing in them different than believing in God? I see Santa and the Easter Bunny at the mall every year. Isn't that proof they exist?
Sum1sGruj
Active Member
Santa Claus doesn't deliver gifts to my chimney, and the Easter Bunny doesn't leave baskets at my window. Peter Pan, who knows maybe so
I have already completed my claim, there is no point in continuing to fight it unless you have a proper idea of your own.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
waitasec
Veteran Member
Sum1sGruj
Active Member
You're going to presume to tell me something that you have no idea of, instead of telling me how I'm wrong. The only obvious thing is that you don't want to go back on what you stated and nobody is going to force you because they group together out of necessity. So therefore you feel nice and cozy in your false idea.
I'm not going to re-explain my claims. It's completed and stands completely without resistance. Just about every question that has been asked has already been explained.
9-10s Penguin, it's been explained. Ritalin OD,, I don't even know what the hell it is you go on about. You seem to think that Peter Pan relates to the rationale I've been explaining, and it simply doesn't, no matter how much you try to word smith your technical arguments the truth is there in this thread.