Atheists:what does a book gotta have to prove its God's

[~Amin~]

How does this even remotely answer the question?
Fact is, it doesn't.

I requested of you to out line what Ive missed, but you ran off,
ssooo which question didn't i answer? i don't no why you KEEP running
off.

 

[~Amin~]

That would be direct irrefutable evidence.

There's clear evidence for those who LOOK.

 

[K.Venugopal]

There's clear evidence for those who LOOK.

God does not need to look for evidence. He knows. Similarly, when we come to the stage where evidence is not required, we simply know - then we would have arrived. If a book guides us to this stage, then that book is certainly from God.

 

[~Amin~]

God does not need to look for evidence. He knows. Similarly, when we come to the stage where evidence is not required, we simply KNOW - then we would have arrived. If a book guides us to this stage, then that book is certainly from God.

This [Qur'an] is notification for
the people thet they may be warned
thereby that they may KNOW that
He is but One God and that those
of understanding will be reminded. Qur'an,14,52.

 

[McBell]

I requested of you to out line what Ive missed, but you ran off,
ssooo which question didn't i answer? i don't no why you KEEP running
off.

Yawn.
And once again you scurry off into left field and ignore the point.
Some posts in this thread you have totally and/or partially ignored:

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Some posts where your reply was not a response to the point and/or your avoiding answering:

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This is in no way to be considered a complete list, even from this thread alone.

 

[~Amin~]

this thread alone.

I challenge you get one point at a time, all this doesnt mean anything,
the viewer wount know in what context it was presented, or what was intended,
or what parables were used, so if your so confident show us one at a time.

 

[s2a]

I challenge you get one point at a time, all this doesnt mean anything,
the viewer wount know in what context it was presented, or what was intended,
or what parables were used, so if your so confident show us one at a time.

No Amin, it means everything.

You said:

"I requested of you to out line what Ive missed, but you ran off,
ssooo which question didn't i answer?"

Your request of a provided "outline" has been fulfilled...in referenced and numbered posts. What "viewers" would or would not "know" regarding the context (or "presentation") of salient points addressed specifically for your own considered rebuttal/reply is utterly moot. What other "viewers" know (or don't know) has no bearing whatsoever upon the demonstrably simple fact that you remain evasive and unresponsive when direct questions are put to you.

Each one of those enumerated instances outlined by Mestemia (in satisfying your request of same) evinces an evasion or deflection on your part. Any sufficiently motivated and objective "viewer" might readily enough revisit those highlighted posts and induce a similar summary evaluation of a patterned and systematic course of evasion and escape.

How would I know?

I'm one of those "viewers" that somehow manages to appreciate the broader perspectives, and can keep track of both the "contextual" nuances and relevant points presented in a reasoned debate.

I've kept it simple enough...and only (once again) reference but one reminder of similar nature addressed for your lone self (post #66).

I'm "viewing"....

 

[McBell]

I challenge you get one point at a time, all this doesnt mean anything,
the viewer wount know in what context it was presented, or what was intended,
or what parables were used, so if your so confident show us one at a time.

I took the time to look up, organize, and present to you EXACTLY what you ask for, and once again you avoid.
Anyone who takes the time to look will clearly see that not only have you avoided and ignored a rather large number of posts, but also that my list above is merely from the time I entered this thread.

As so eloquently stated by s2a:

"Your request of a provided "outline" has been fulfilled...in referenced and numbered posts. What "viewers" would or would not "know" regarding the context (or "presentation") of salient points addressed specifically for your own considered rebuttal/reply is utterly moot. What other "viewers" know (or don't know) has nowhatsoever upon the demonstrably simple fact that you remain evasive and unresponsive when direct questions are put to you.

Each one of those enumerated instances outlined by Mestemia (in satisfying your request of same) evinces an evasion or deflection on your part. Any sufficiently motivated and objective "viewer" might readily enough revisit those highlighted posts and induce a similar summary evaluation of a patterned and systematic course of evasion and escape."
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[~Amin~]

You said:

"I requested of you to out line what Ive missed, but you ran off,
ssooo which question didn't i answer?"

(post #66).

I'm "viewing"....

Aaaahhhh thank you, your one of those people i REALY like,
s2a firstly i want to say sorry. Remember YOU SAID
"Pssst.

Amin.

Maybe you missed this in your distracted fervor..."

You right i missed it, and also i don't like going through lengthy presentations,
i get board, but know i read your thread and its very interesting, i mentioned
it before to save me time we can go through ALL of it one point per post,
that way we can get into detail, i hope you don't mind, but i think you get ALMOST
as excited as me in the RF.

Thank you again ill wait for you to start.

Mestemia sorry but s2a is obviously taking his discussion seriously,
I'm shore hell keep me busy therefore unless you present something the
way s2a did i wont be able to respond.

 

[McBell]

Mestemia sorry but s2a is obviously taking his discussion seriously,I'm shore hell keep me busy therefore unless you present something the
way s2a did i wont be able to respond.

Wow, you have more excuses then both my children combined.

Oh, and you STILL have not addressed post #66.
You do so much talking but nothing really ever comes out of your mouth.
In fact, I have grown rather bored with your little game.
I apologize for presenting to much information at one time.
I was unaware that you were unable to handle it.

But since you have so successfully NOT addressed post #66, I find it rather pointless to waste the bandwidth listing each of the 25 posts in a seperate post.
And given that more than a few of the ones on the list have more than one point that you blatantly avoided, your next excuse will be that you meant only one point at a time.

As I said: I have gotten bored with your excuses and the run around.

 

[~Amin~]

Oh, and you STILL have not addressed post #66.
You do so much talking but nothing really ever comes out of your mouth.

Mestemia, i repeated my self not just to you, but others also
POST 66 is a WHOLE article, don't make out like one answer can satisfy
s2a, or your self.

But since you have so successfully NOT addressed post #66,

SSSeeeeee as i said your saying the same thing in one post twice,
if your so interested, you go get parts of s2a's article and, and present it
in point form, if not I WILL NOT sit and answer the whole thing, does this mean
I'm avoiding ? NO, by GOD i LOVE this the RF.

 

[~Amin~]

If you want response from me, theres ONLY ONE WAY, one point at a time.

 

[McBell]

Since there are different sects of Islam, my pointing out where they differ is rather irrelevant, wouldn't you say?

Then to add to the fact that these different sects also vary greatly as to who should and should not be killed for not believing in the Quran/Koran/Qu'ran.
Hell, they even argue over how the title of the book is spelled.

And you are wanting specifics on what they disagree with?Post #101
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[McBell]

One point from the "article for you:

1) God (meaning to represent any divine entity in question) "speaks" to a group of His followers/adherents (after they prayerfully beseech Him to "reveal Himself to unbelievers), commanding them to preach of an upcoming "miracle" and message in the sky from God Himself (this would provide the basis of a prophecy to be borne out as true). Such a caveat is *optional*. Either the miracle can be "foretold", or manifest itself as a complete "surprise" (it's just that "fulfilled" prophecy seems to hold more sway and cognitive superficial influence than "unannounced" miracles.

 

[YmirGF]

If you want response from me, theres ONLY ONE WAY, one point at a time.

Are you saying that you are a linear thinker who cannot follow more than one train of thought at a time?

 

[~Amin~]

Are you saying that you are a linear thinker who cannot follow more than one train of thought at a time?

HHHIIIIII Ymir, i got a funny feeling in my stomach when i saw you, ha ha
I'm happy your back, your comment is very close to accurate, but a little off
the mark.

 

[~Amin~]

Since there are different sects of Islam, my pointing out where they differ is rather irrelevant, wouldn't you say?

since were on the topic why not point it out, its very relevant.

Then to add to the fact that these different sects also vary greatly as to who should and should not be killed for not believing in the Quran/Koran/Qu'ran.

I dont understand, HOW can you judge ALL Muslims, if some people who CLAIM to be MUSLIM misrepresent the Faith?

Hell, they even argue over how the title of the book is spelled.

Mestemia there is no argument, tell US, WHO"S arguing on spelling? Its just what certain translators, what letter they use to
define an Arabic letter, this does NOT make a sect, I'm shocked that
your having difficulty with this basic point.

And you are wanting specifics on what they disagree with?Post #101

There's no difference here, instead of judging so called "MUSLIMS"
why not judge the Qur'an?.
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[~Amin~]

Hold your horses Mestimia, ill attend to your 2nd inquiry, SOON
InshAllah.

 

[~Amin~]

1) God (meaning to represent any divine entity in question) "speaks" to a group of His followers/adherents (after they prayerfully beseech Him to "reveal Himself to unbelievers), commanding them to preach of an upcoming "miracle" and message in the sky from God Himself (this would provide the basis of a prophecy to be borne out as true). Such a caveat is *optional*.

I not going to philosophize, but instead try to give answers directly
from the Book of God I'm sure the viewers would appreciate that.
And it is NOT for any human that God should speak to him
EXCEPT by revelation or from behind a partition(the causes around us)
or that He sends a messenger to reveal, by His permission, what He
wills. Indeed, He is Most High and Wise. Qur'an 42,51.

Either the miracle can be "foretold", or manifest itself as a complete "surprise" (it's just that "fulfilled" prophecy seems to hold more sway and cognitive superficial influence than "unannounced" miracles.

This has already happened not in the exact words, but God split the moon
through the prophet Muhammad.
The hour has come near, and the moon has split
and if they see a sign , they turn AWAY and say
"passing magic" Qur'an 54,1,2.

 

[Aasimar]

I dont understand, HOW can you judge ALL Muslims, if some people who CLAIM to be MUSLIM misrepresent the Faith?

Alright I hate this arguement, point me to a living person who accurately represents "The Faith."