~Amin~
God is the King
How could there be doubt about the Creator of the heavens and the earth,
this is self evident.
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Atheists:what does a book gotta have to prove its God's
- Thread starter ~Amin~
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this is self evident.
Please explain how it can be self evident which deity created the heavens and the earth when, IMO, it's not self-evident that a deity created the heavens and the earth at all.
What special reasons are there to choose your version over any other?
~Amin~
God is the King
OOO really please point it out.
Dear mestemia, i don't know about you but I'm married with two small babies/kids
and i work, and study, and i must spend time with my wife, its near impossible
to answer not just your suggestions but every body else's, just nicely point
out what i overlooked By God ill answer them inshallah(God Willing).
There's many of the Qur'anic verses you havent responded to which i have presented,
i can say the same thing are you trying to avoid them?
in any case its not useful to get personal just please stick to the topic.
~Amin~
God is the King
My version of what?
Your version of God. Why would what you believe be "self evident" to anyone else?
McBell
Unbound
No it isn't.
That there is a creator isn't even a workable theory.
It is merely a belief.
For a basic understanding of the Forer effect:
Forer effect
The big difference is that you have not addressed anything, even after being pointedly asked to address specific points.
You still continue to merely brush off anything that you suspect hurts your position and if you had an understanding of the forer effect you would know that your verses HAVE been addressed.
camanintx
Well-Known Member
I don't believe it is self evident that the universe was created, regardless of which creator you give credit to.
~Amin~
God is the King
How can there be doubt about the ONE ,
Who gave us and created Life,
Then He Sustains us,
Then He will cause us to die, and has created death,
Ten He will Resurrect us for account,
How Could There Be Anyone Like Unto Him.
~Amin~
God is the King
Because God created everything, and gave everyONE the tools to recognise
this reality.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Then why doesn't everyone recognize it? Pretty unreliable tools.
And I suppose we can take the fact that everyone in the world believes as you do to be evidence that your claim here is correct, right?
Wandered Off
Sporadic Driveby Member
The same way there could be doubt about tiny, undetectable control-freak wombats that pushed my fingers to type this message. How could you doubt that?
I doubt that. All the wombats I know are very mellow and easy-going. They're not control freaks at all.
Other than that, the story checks out.
McBell
Unbound
Very easily.
It has been shown that the universe could exist as it does WITHOUT a creator.
Therefore a creator is no longer needed to explain it.
~Amin~
God is the King
What does that got to do with the price of eggs.
McBell
Unbound
It has the exact same amount of merit/proof as your God created everything theory.
~Amin~
God is the King
You pointed out to me before you wernt an atheist.
And according to who can the universe exist without Creator?
McBell
Unbound
Perhaps you should go see the ones at the Fort Wayne Children's Zoo.
One hour watching them, and You would not have any doubts to the possibility.
McBell
Unbound
What does my being or not being an atheist have to do with it?
Science has shown that it is possible.
Several different ways even.
Now you must keep in mind that I am talking about REAL science, not that crap that the likes of Kent Hovind uses.
