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[LuisDantas]

Not true, we may say that religion is one reason for terrorism but that doesn't mean that all religious people are terrorists, hope that example will help.

It doesn't. If anything, theism is more conductive to immorality than atheism.

 

[FearGod]

It doesn't. If anything, theism is more conductive to immorality than atheism.

Every person is entitled to his own opinion.

 

[LuisDantas]

Yet both anedoctal evidence and actual research consistently show that to be the case, so is it even a matter of opinion? I don't think so.

 

[FearGod]

Yet both anedoctal evidence and actual research consistently show that to be the case, so is it even a matter of opinion? I don't think so.

Would you pls elaborate, not understood.

 

[LuisDantas]

Have you looked at the statistics relating belief stances and criminal actions and/or immoral behavior?

 

[FearGod]

Have you looked at the statistics relating belief stances and criminal actions and/or immoral behavior?

I said there are some hypocrites, but it'll be odd to see a religious girl choose to work as a prostitute, IOW those who want to work in this field don't favor religion because it goes against their will, that doesn't mean also that all disbelievers have rejected religion because they want to work as prostitutes.

 

[YmirGF]

I said there are some hypocrites, but it'll be odd to see a religious girl choose to work as a prostitute, IOW those who want to work in this field don't favor religion because it goes against their will, that doesn't mean also that all disbelievers have rejected religion because they want to work as prostitutes.

 

[idav]

I said there are some hypocrites, but it'll be odd to see a religious girl choose to work as a prostitute, IOW those who want to work in this field don't favor religion because it goes against their will, that doesn't mean also that all disbelievers have rejected religion because they want to work as prostitutes.

So your generalizing that sinners dont favor religion cause they would rather prefer to sin, but then you recognize that its a generalization and that people wont always reject religion just cause they want to sin. Alrighty then.

 

[idav]

Are even holy sheep safe? I dont know.

 

[FearGod]

So your generalizing that sinners dont favor religion cause they would rather prefer to sin, but then you recognize that its a generalization and that people wont always reject religion just cause they want to sin. Alrighty then.

Not prefer to sin but chose to sin.

Morality and religion are 2 sides of one coin.

 

[idav]

Not prefer to sin but chose to sin.

Morality and religion are 2 sides of one coin.

There just is no general correlation. People choose to sin whether religious or not. In fact I would think being religious should make a difference but it doesn't. Currently there are religious people chopping people's heads off, and seculars tend to think that chopping heads off is inhumane.

 

[FearGod]

There just is no general correlation. People choose to sin whether religious or not. In fact I would think being religious should make a difference but it doesn't. Currently there are religious people chopping people's heads off, and seculars tend to think that chopping heads off is inhumane.

I said and agree that there are hypocrites.

 

[idav]

I said and agree that there are hypocrites.

Well ok. I was just commenting on you presenting a generalization and then taking it back in the same post. The generalization you first posted to alceste for some unknown reason.

 

[FearGod]

Well ok. I was just commenting on you presenting a generalization and then taking it back in the same post. The generalization you first posted to alceste for some unknown reason.

I said some people.

So you think there was nothing to start with,an infinity of vacuum, then all of a sudden a thing appeared by itself and here we are, the huge universe.

The question rises who brought the first thing to existence it should be another thing existed before the new thing then we will reach to a point that there should be a thing that always existed.

Rejecting the existence of God as the always existed thing not because it doesn't make sense, but because some people wanted to live free of religion,so adultery is permitted, prostitutes can have many men to sleep with, girls can have several boyfriends, drugs and drinking, stealing,lying,oppression, dishonesty, how to be religious while the person know himself can't be away from such world which he/she preferred

 

[idav]

I said some people.

Thats not the post I am referencing, but I am seeing something nonsensical. It makes no sense for someone to not believe in god for fear of getting in trouble. People do what they want whatever their beliefs. I think when people do things it is because they think it is the right thing or at the least that it is morally neutral and will cause no harm. If someone thinks they can cause harm and be in the right then they are definitely hypocrites and delusional.

 

[Alceste]

No my reply were for specific people such as drug addicts,prostitutes ...etc and my point that such kind of people don't prefer the idea of God as it goes against their will, also that doesn't mean that all atheists in this world are that bad, i don't paint people with one broad brush.

No Alceste, you aren't stupid and my words isn't towards any one in this forum, i am expressing my opinion and views in general and i may add that there are some religious people doing bad things too and those are the hypocrites.

If I say Muslims who reject evolution are stupid and usually prefer Islam so they can beat, rape and oppress women, and not be held accountable for it, and I say it directly to you, and it comes out of the blue with no logical connection to the post I am replying to, would you suspect I was talking about you, personally?

 

[FearGod]

If I say Muslims who reject evolution are stupid and usually prefer Islam so they can beat, rape and oppress women, and not be held accountable for it, and I say it directly to you, and it comes out of the blue with no logical connection to the post I am replying to, would you suspect I was talking about you, personally?

It is ok with me.

My reply will be that Muslims aren't me,as Christians aren't Hitler.
Raping and oppressing aren't an Islamic or a religious behavior, so i believe that people doing such things should be irreligious and nonhuman.

 

[Looncall]

Maybe it is annoying, but those i mentioned such as drug addiction,prostitution,murderers,rapists ..etc is a reality happening all over the world and such acts is what religion resists,not only Islam but religion in general which is all about morality.

My opinion that such kind of people don't prefer religion and that doesn't mean that all disbelievers are those bad people which i mentioned as an example, i don't know how my point wasn't clear and turned to be an insult to every single person who doesn't believe in God.

Really? So why is it that when groups of muslims get "off the leash of society" , they immediately turn to murder, rape etc (you left out slavery)? Cf ISIS, Boko Haram, taliban, al-Shebab etc.

 

[FearGod]

Really? So why is it that when groups of muslims get "off the leash of society" , they immediately turn to murder, rape etc (you left out slavery)? Cf ISIS, Boko Haram, taliban, al-Shebab etc.

Political movements don't represent the real face of religion.

 

[Looncall]

Political movements don't represent the real face of religion.

Humbug. All those groups claim to be acting for religion.