ppp
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That sentence could not even be constructed in the absence of logic.
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Baha'i logical afterlife
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Trailblazer
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Love is not subject to logic.
ppp
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'Love' is not a proposition. Logic/illogic is not an attribute or metric.
One may s well ask if 'anger' is horizontal. Or if 'sadness' is orthogonal.
JoshuaTree
Flowers are red?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Yeah it is.
But that saying does not come from my religion.
Audie
Veteran Member
The problem is in the premises.
I mean, seriously. Some dude ups and says
"God" told me this stuff, so ya know its true.
People been pulling that con all over the wotld for millenia.
Applying logic as prescribed has zero value.
Common sense applied to premises is a better plan.
ppp
Well-Known Member
They were doing too much LDS back in the '60s, anyway.Dude you are derailing a whole lot of star trek the original series.
JoshuaTree
Flowers are red?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
God operates outside our understanding.Dude you are derailing a whole lot of star trek the original series.
JoshuaTree
Flowers are red?
Logic out the window as a useful tool for predicting god, that leaves what, love?
Audie
Veteran Member
Why, yes. See "common law and common sense" yale law school legal scholarship repository.
Audie
Veteran Member
And means of detection.
Actually, all the characteristics of the non exidtent.
JoshuaTree
Flowers are red?
So... God is love... Right?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
There is no tool for predicting what God might do since He doeth whatsoever He chooseth.
“Say: O people! Let not this life and its deceits deceive you, for the world and all that is therein is held firmly in the grasp of His Will. He bestoweth His favor on whom He willeth, and from whom He willeth He taketh it away. He doth whatsoever He chooseth.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 209
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
There is no correlation whatsoever, because there is no reason why God would want to be detected.....
And an omnipotent God always gets what He wants.
JoshuaTree
Flowers are red?
So God calls us, we don't call God, right?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
That depends upon what you mean by call.
JoshuaTree
Flowers are red?
Are you saying that for Bahai's Hell (or remoteness from God) after death in not permanent?
So after death really bad people spend a few years in hell (remote from God) and then move to heaven (near to God) ? So hell is not eternal, but heaven is eternal?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Much of what we read in the Baha'i Writings is about heaven, not hell, and to my knowledge there is nothing that says we will either be able to get out of hell (become close to God) or be stuck there (distant from God) after we die and enter the spiritual world. Maybe my Baha'i cohorts have an opinion about this based upon their understanding of the Baha'i Writings, or there is something they have read that I have not read, but I do not think there is a definitive answer to this question.
“Know thou that every hearing ear, if kept pure and undefiled, must, at all times and from every direction, hearken to the voice that uttereth these holy words: “Verily, we are God’s, and to Him shall we return.” The mysteries of man’s physical death and of his return have not been divulged, and still remain unread.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 345
“Death proffereth unto every confident believer the cup that is life indeed. It bestoweth joy, and is the bearer of gladness. It conferreth the gift of everlasting life.
As to those that have tasted of the fruit of man’s earthly existence, which is the recognition of the one 346 true God, exalted be His glory, their life hereafter is such as We are unable to describe. The knowledge thereof is with God, alone, the Lord of all worlds.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 345-346