InvestigateTruth
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So I see one has to ask themselves, when Muhammad came, was He a "Spirit of Truth"? Also what about the Bab?
By offering the title exclusively, would it not be fair and reasonable to say that Christianity could reject Muhammad and the Bab, as they were not that 'Spirit of Truth'. Also would it not support the stance of the Jew, as Jesus, Muhammad and the Bab are not the Messiah.
Also did not Muhammad and the Bab as the 'Spirit of Truth', guide us unto all truth. Where is it saying we will except 'All Truth'?
Abdul'Baha says;
"..In the Gospels it is written that the Christ said: "I have many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now! But when he, the spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you unto all knowledge." Christ is alluding to a person, because he says, "When he is come, he will not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak." This means by the power of innate knowledge.
The Spirit of Truth is the power of Innate knowledge, does that not describe every Message from God?
@firedragon
Abdul'baha also ties together the Spirit of Truth and Spirit of God in the same human frame.
"..For instance, in reference to the Promised One that must come after Christ, it is said in John 16:12: “I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak.”
Now consider carefully that the words “for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak” clearly imply that the Spirit of truth is embodied in a Man Who has a soul, Who has ears to hear and a tongue to speak. Likewise Christ is called the "Spirit of God”, in the same way that we speak of the light and yet mean both the light and the lamp."
I have come to the terms that no matter how much I know, I see I am yet to know anything and if we start to make exclusive statements, I see we have missed the point of Oneness. Oneness to me omits exclusion. The Message of Baha'u'llah, to me, is the Culmination of all what the 'Spirit of Truth' has offered, thus in this revelation we get a glimpse of the full potential of all the Messengers.
I will leave it there Susan, stay well, stay happy, Love from my wife and I to you and yours.
Regards Tony
Bahai scriptures gives an analogy.
A Manifestation of God, or the eternal Truth, is like rise of the Sun. There is only one Sun. Not two or three or more Suns.
But for the Sun to rise tomorrow, the sun must set or leave today. Until the spirit of Truth does not leave today, it cannot come tomorrow. It is the same Spirit:
So, while Jesus was the Spirit of Truth, but He prophesied that the Spirit of Truth shall come.
"For they are all but one person, one soul, one spirit, one being, one revelation. " Baha'u'llah
It is like, the Sun says, I leave, so, the Sun comes tomorrow. We cannot have two suns in One single Day.
This is what Bahaullah wrote in the Iqan:
"Thus it is that Jesus, Himself, declared: “I go away and come again unto you.” Consider the sun. Were it to say now, “I am the sun of yesterday,” it would speak the truth. And should it, bearing the sequence of time in mind, claim to be other than that sun, it still would speak the truth. In like manner, if it be said that all the days are but one and the same, it is correct and true. And if it be said, with respect to their particular names and designations, that they differ, that again is true. For though they are the same, yet one doth recognize in each a separate designation, a specific attribute, a particular character. Conceive accordingly the distinction, variation, and unity characteristic of the various Manifestations of holiness, that thou mayest comprehend the allusions
made by the Creator of all names and attributes to the mysteries of distinction and unity, and discover the answer to thy question as to why that everlasting Beauty should have, at sundry times, called Himself by different names and titles."
A clarification: Jesus, Bahaullah or Moses, all were separate and different individuals, each having their own Soul. But as these were like a Mirror, reflecting the same God, all shown the same image, or image of God.
It is like same Sun appear in many mirrors. So, although the Mirrors are different from each other, yet they reflect the same image. Likewise God who is like the sun, is manifested in Many mirrors. Baha'u'llah said:
"These sanctified Mirrors, these Daysprings of ancient glory are one and all the Exponents on earth of Him Who is the central Orb of the universe, its Essence and ultimate Purpose. From Him proceed their knowledge and power; from Him is derived their sovereignty. The beauty of their countenance is but a reflection of His image, and their revelation a sign of His deathless glory. They are the Treasuries of divine knowledge, and the Repositories of celestial wisdom. Through them is transmitted a grace that is infinite, and by them is revealed the light that can never fade. Even as He hath said: “There is no distinction whatsoever between Thee and them; except that they are Thy servants, and are created of Thee.” This is the significance of the tradition: “I am He, Himself, and He is I, myself.”
Baha'u'llah, Book of Iqan.
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