Ban Fireworks

[ChristineM]

Not in our house.

Guido Fawkes was one of only very few men ever to enter Parliament with honest intentions.

It was common in the area i lived and he was Catholic protesing for Catholic rights

 

[Eddi]

Fireworks cause distress, injury and deaths. Pets, wildlife and people (eg those with PTSD, anxiety or autism) are affected. Selling explosives? What are we thinking?
Increasing numbers of people (including senior representatives of the emergency services) are calling for at least the restriction on their sale to the general public. Personally I want a total ban.

The UK campaign:
- The Firework Campaign UK

(PS So-called silent fireworks are NOT silent).

There is something deeply moronic about fireworks

"Looky at all the pretty bang bangs!"

Seriously they are for the easily pleased

 

[The Hammer]

because they are inbred monstrosities

This is why it is important to not get. A dog from a breeder, or a "pure" bred dog. It's best to get a mutt, as they are healthier. The permanent puppyhood depends on whether or not you neuter them, and at what age.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I voted for giving it to the country that scores no 1 on the freedom index. A bit like winning the Stanley Cup.

I like it. Switzerland doesn't have a harbour home for her though...

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, ban the sale to the public.

Fascist!

I hate to see handing so much power to government
in pursuit of safety & security. I prefer that the balance
allow us to have fireworks, alcohol, guns, & bathtubs
(where someone drowns daily).

 

[We Never Know]

I like the french restrictions on fireworks..

The laws in France are quite strict regarding fireworks. If you plan to set them off on public land, you have to get prior permission from the town hall ("mairie"), inform the fire service, and respect certain minimum distances for spectators.​

Places around me its illegal to shoot them off in city limits. Its enforced but not strictly enforced. People get a ticket/fine.
I don't know about public land as many set them off on their own land.

 

[ChristineM]

Fascist!

I hate to see handing so much power to government
in pursuit of safety & security. I prefer that the balance
allow us to have fireworks, alcohol, guns, & bathtubs
(where someone drowns daily).

Cars can be dangerous, a license is needed to drive one. Dynamite can be dangerous, a licensed is needed to buy and use it. Fireworks can be dangerous...

 

[Revoltingest]

Cars can be dangerous, a license is needed to drive one. Dynamite can be dangerous, a licensed is needed to buy and use it. Fireworks can be dangerous...

Dynamite & the kind of fireworks we buy here
are very very very very very very different things.
So they shouldn't be regulated in the same way.

 

[We Never Know]

Fireworks cause distress, injury and deaths. Pets, wildlife and people (eg those with PTSD, anxiety or autism) are affected. Selling explosives? What are we thinking?
Increasing numbers of people (including senior representatives of the emergency services) are calling for at least the restriction on their sale to the general public. Personally I want a total ban.

The UK campaign:
- The Firework Campaign UK

(PS So-called silent fireworks are NOT silent).

Many things cause distress, injury and deaths.

For harm of animals,, we should ban vehicles. which are also responsible for many deaths of humans, pollution, etc

As for PTSD,, we need to ban lots...

"There are many different harmful or life-threatening events that might cause someone to develop PTSD. For example.

• being involved in a car crash
• being raped or sexually assaulted
• being abused, harassed or bullied - including racism, sexism, homophobia, biphobia or transphobia, and other types of abuse targeting your identity
• being kidnapped, held hostage or any event in which you fear for your life
• experiencing violence, including military combat, a terrorist attack, or any violent assault
• seeing other people hurt or killed, including in the course of your job (sometimes called secondary trauma)
• doing a job where you repeatedly see or hear distressing things, such as working in the emergency services or armed forces
• surviving a natural disaster, such as flooding, earthquakes or pandemics, such as the coronavirus pandemic
• traumatic childbirth as a mother, or as a partner witnessing a traumatic birth
• losing someone close to you in particularly upsetting circumstances
• being sectioned or getting treatment in a mental health ward
• being diagnosed with a life-threatening condition.

 

[ChristineM]

Dynamite & the kind of fireworks we buy here
are very very very very very very different things.
So they shouldn't be regulated in the same way.

Someone determined can make a crude but effective weapon from fireworks. Even in normal use, if used incorrectly they can be very very very very very very dangerous. Just go visit a hospital the day following a festival which fireworks play a major part

 

[Polymath257]

As always, it would be so much easier if only the idiots got hurt by their actions.

 

[Revoltingest]

Someone determined can make a crude but effective weapon from fireworks.

This is true.
But has it actually been a problem?
I can make a "crude but effective weapon" from
a kitchen knife, swimming pool acid, a handsaw,
a can of gasoline, & even a hammer.

BTW, I propose registering all hammers, &
requiring a background check & waiting period
for purchase. (I read the news.)

 

[ChristineM]

This is true.
But has it actually been a problem?
I can make a "crude but effective weapon" from
a kitchen knife, swimming pool acid, a handsaw,
a can of gasoline, & even a hammer.

BTW, I propose registering all hammers, &
requiring a background check & waiting period
for purchase. (I read the news.)

Yes, its true.
A problem? I've see a girl attacked with a roman candle so yes, it can be a problem.

 

[F1fan]

Some people simply can't stand others being patriotic and having fun.

Although admittedly, it ought to be prohibited after a certain time so as not to disturb the public peace.

Well it's not that simple. There have been numerous years that the air quality is so bad after July 4th fireworks that it was a public health concern. Those with respiratory problems are in serious discomfort and at risk for a medical crisis. I've had sleepless nights due to the heavy smoke in the air. And on top of that animals and pets have a serious reaction to the noise, and even many humans as noted already.

I don't mind fireworks, but I think there should be a look at what harm they cause. This year the heat was so bad that some communities had their displays on the weekend and other nights. This really helped air quality. But there is still the effect on living things that we humans should think about.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, its true.
A problem? I've see a girl attacked with a roman candle so yes, it can be a problem.

You cite 1 example of mis-use of fireworks, eh.
Would you apply this approach to banning other
items that have been mis-used once?
It should be about the frequency & severity of
the problem in society. Balance that against
the desire for the item.
I favor keeping these things legal, despite
the fact that they occasionally result in injury....
Vaccines, fireworks, kitchen knives, hammers, etc.

 

[Gargovic Malkav]

This is true.
But has it actually been a problem?
I can make a "crude but effective weapon" from
a kitchen knife, swimming pool acid, a handsaw,
a can of gasoline, & even a hammer.

BTW, I propose registering all hammers, &
requiring a background check & waiting period
for purchase. (I read the news.)

Arms, legs, and teeth can hurt and kill people too...

I always find it difficult to determine where to draw a line.
And I think sometimes it's better to just let people take risks with a possibly heavy price to pay to learn their lesson (including the unfortunate souls who get somehow hurt by the collateral damage; it might even teach them to care more about the safety and well-being of others).

 

[Heyo]

Fireworks cause distress, injury and deaths. Pets, wildlife and people (eg those with PTSD, anxiety or autism) are affected. Selling explosives? What are we thinking?
Increasing numbers of people (including senior representatives of the emergency services) are calling for at least the restriction on their sale to the general public. Personally I want a total ban.

The UK campaign:
- The Firework Campaign UK

(PS So-called silent fireworks are NOT silent).

I don't need fireworks but that's not enough reason to ban them.
Maybe put a dedicated tax on them which goes to the treatment of all the idiots who can't handle them (and those who are stupid enough to stand near such people). And a fat bonus to all healthcare workers who have to work on New Years Eve / Guy Fawkes Day / Independence Day / etc.

 

[We Never Know]

Well it's not that simple. There have been numerous years that the air quality is so bad after July 4th fireworks that it was a public health concern. Those with respiratory problems are in serious discomfort and at risk for a medical crisis. I've had sleepless nights due to the heavy smoke in the air. And on top of that animals and pets have a serious reaction to the noise, and even many humans as noted already.

I don't mind fireworks, but I think there should be a look at what harm they cause. This year the heat was so bad that some communities had their displays on the weekend and other nights. This really helped air quality. But there is still the effect on living things that we humans should think about.

"There have been numerous years that the air quality is so bad after July 4th fireworks that it was a public health concern. Those with respiratory problems are in serious discomfort and at risk for a medical crisis."

Source?

 

[Secret Chief]

I don't need fireworks but that's not enough reason to ban them.
Maybe put a dedicated tax on them which goes to the treatment of all the idiots who can't handle them (and those who are stupid enough to stand near such people). And a fat bonus to all healthcare workers who have to work on New Years Eve / Guy Fawkes Day / Independence Day / etc.

What about treatment of the dead animals?

 

[F1fan]

"There have been numerous years that the air quality is so bad after July 4th fireworks that it was a public health concern. Those with respiratory problems are in serious discomfort and at risk for a medical crisis."

Source?

Really? This sounds implausible to you?

I'll bet you have experienced this yourself if you live in a big city.

Fireworks, a blast for the holiday but a bust for your lungs: Air pollution nightmare

https://phys.org/news/2018-07-july-fourth-year-worst-air.html

Study: Fireworks release high levels of pollution on July 4 weekend

Are Fireworks Bad for the Environment? Here's What You Need to Know for July 4th