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Ban Fireworks

Secret Chief

Veteran Member
Many things cause distress, injury and deaths.

For harm of animals,, we should ban vehicles. which are also responsible for many deaths of humans, pollution, etc

As for PTSD,, we need to ban lots...

"There are many different harmful or life-threatening events that might cause someone to develop PTSD. For example.
  • being involved in a car crash
  • being raped or sexually assaulted
  • being abused, harassed or bullied - including racism, sexism, homophobia, biphobia or transphobia, and other types of abuse targeting your identity
  • being kidnapped, held hostage or any event in which you fear for your life
  • experiencing violence, including military combat, a terrorist attack, or any violent assault
  • seeing other people hurt or killed, including in the course of your job (sometimes called secondary trauma)
  • doing a job where you repeatedly see or hear distressing things, such as working in the emergency services or armed forces
  • surviving a natural disaster, such as flooding, earthquakes or pandemics, such as the coronavirus pandemic
  • traumatic childbirth as a mother, or as a partner witnessing a traumatic birth
  • losing someone close to you in particularly upsetting circumstances
  • being sectioned or getting treatment in a mental health ward
  • being diagnosed with a life-threatening condition.
So in summary you don't care.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
You cite 1 example of mis-use of fireworks, eh.
Would you apply this approach to banning other
items that have been mis-used once?
It should be about the frequency & severity of
the problem in society. Balance that against
the desire for the item.
I favor keeping these things legal, despite
the fact that they occasionally result in injury....
Vaccines, fireworks, kitchen knives, hammers, etc.


I cite one example, what is to say there are not others, i have read that there are. The severity is pretty severe for the people who are injured and need to spend time in burns units and having reconstructive surgery.

And if it were just the danger of misuse, but they are also traumatic for animals.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I cite one example, what is to say there are not others, i have read that there are. The severity is pretty severe for the people who are injured and need to spend time in burns units and having reconstructive surgery.

And if it were just the danger of misuse, but they are also traumatic for animals.
Wanting government to ban something that people
enjoy should consider the full picture...
- Deleterious effects of banning vs not banning
- Benefits of banning vs not banning
- Alternatives
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
The fireworks question is probably not important in countries where guns are so available, but in the UK, where such are not so easily obtained, even knives cannot be carried legally unless less than a certain length or just bought. Fireworks then stand out as a danger, even if for only one day of the year, given they can be bought long in advance. All the 'what about this' as to other dangers is just that - they all have other purposes - fireworks don't. The fact is that fireworks are a tradition (in the UK at least) and one that has had its day. They have gotten more powerful over the decades (so much noisier), and as mentioned, there are plenty of instances of animals being harmed or frightened by their use - as well as annoying the elderly so often when they are let off close by. Easy to dismiss any concerns, but no doubt they will be banned when someone does do something horrible involving them. What is wrong with just having local displays?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Wanting government to ban something that people
enjoy should consider the full picture...
- Deleterious effects of banning vs not banning
- Benefits of banning vs not banning
- Alternatives


I come from a country where fireworks were/are ubiquitous, being detonated nightly for several weeks prior to the big event of Guy Fawkes night. In recent years they have become available all year round. Birthday parties, barbeques, Christmas, new year.

I moved to a country where they are tightly controlled, yes you can buy them but they are several limited in obtaining permission when and where you can let them off.

Personally i prefer the restrictions. And there is no doubt my cats are not as stressed out/traumatized by them.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The fireworks question is probably not important in countries where guns are so available, but in the UK, where such are not so easily obtained, even knives cannot be carried legally unless less than a certain length or just bought.
An oddity....
I am licensed to carry any legal handgun.
But I'm severely restricted on what kind
of knife I can carry. Go figure.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I come from a country where fireworks were/are ubiquitous, being detonated nightly for several weeks prior to the big event of Guy Fawkes night. In recent years they have become available all year round. Birthday parties, barbeques, Christmas, new year.

I moved to a country where they are tightly controlled, yes you can buy them but they are several limited in obtaining permission when and where you can let them off.

Personally i prefer the restrictions. And there is no doubt my cats are not as stressed out/traumatized by them.
I understand.
I live in a more sparsely populated area too.
So fireworks regulation should differ for us.

These little guys should remain legal here....
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Secret Chief

Veteran Member
"The law says you must not set off or throw fireworks (including sparklers) in the street or other public places.
You can be fined an unlimited amount and imprisoned for up to 6 months for selling or using fireworks illegally. You could also get an on-the-spot fine of £90."
- Fireworks: the law

As I type this there are children in the park at the back of our house letting off fireworks, some of which are akin to bombs exploding.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Oh yes. It is so controversial enjoying fireworks. The horror.
It's that you never do anything else than act like an ultra minimalist of a contrarian. You don't even support or back up your position. You just post a short bit and run.
 
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