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Bible Fails

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
As barbaric as it sounds that was not considered rape since women were possessions in the Bible. The rape of a virgin was a crime against the father, he is the one that the rapist would have to atone to with a monetary payment. The woman was now his "wife" since the Bible has a "You broke her you bought her" policy in regards to women.

Such fine morals:rolleyes:

Still rape to be forced into sex and a barbaric system may make it all hunky dory but it does not change the fact it is rape
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Wrong. That never happens. Your counting is way off.

"And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention has to a lamp shining in a dark place, until ithe day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts," Peter 1:19

LOL!! Using a failed book of prophecies to defend a failed book of prophecies. Could you get any more circular in your reasoning?

"All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work." 1 Timothy 3:16-17
I see that like many literalists tat you do not understand that verse either.

Next, we have the Bible scholars who have verified it as so, as well the believers who have done same. It has withstood the test of time.

Sorry, you don't get to claim the verifications if you reject the refutations. That is cherry picking.

OTOH, the stuff in Darwin's book has been demonstrated by science to be wrong. Do you want links :D?

I could use a good laugh. Bear in mind that you have demonstrated that you do not understand the basics of science and ran away from a discussion on them.

Here's the big evidence for God that the Bible revealed to me in 2019. The best thing I've heard an atheist say was that it wasn't enough for God to move the stars to spell out, "I am here." He said the people in the southern hemisphere would not see it. Moreover God had to prove it to every atheist who ever lived and died as well as those born in the future. That's a tall order and his comment made front page news. Last year, I learned God already answered him with "Every eye will see" prophecy in Revelations. Thus, everything will be settled on Earth. Amazing.

Sorry, but that is absolutely the worst reason to believe. The mind can be easily confused. There are more objective approaches.
 

james bond

Well-Known Member
LOL!! Using a failed book of prophecies to defend a failed book of prophecies. Could you get any more circular in your reasoning?


I see that like many literalists tat you do not understand that verse either.



Sorry, you don't get to claim the verifications if you reject the refutations. That is cherry picking.



I could use a good laugh. Bear in mind that you have demonstrated that you do not understand the basics of science and ran away from a discussion on them.



Sorry, but that is absolutely the worst reason to believe. The mind can be easily confused. There are more objective approaches.

Wrong again. I used the book of truth to show humans are wrong.

Moreover, let me expound on my last post. I thought before 2019 that atheists would be shown they were wrong in hell. However, that isn't the case. The atheist who said the greatest thing an atheist ever said would be shown proof as well as those whom he mentioned. If I was an atheist and believed what this guy said, then found out that God had already answered him in the Bible, I would fall down on my face to worship God and say I was wrong and beg for forgiveness. Fortunately, my pretty face is saved by faith.
 

McBell

Admiral Obvious
Not really. I have seen many of these supposed contradictions. When context is added it does not say what those who cherry pick scripture say they are saying. If you surface read it may appear that way until you read the surrounding contexts. I agree some things as a christian we believe by faith according to others that are eyewitnesses (e.g miracles, the super natural, creation) but this is no less then those who live by faith that cannot prove there is no God and that these things did not happen. What is shameful is you who cannot see your own contradictions in your own post living by faith as much as I do. :)
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sooda

Veteran Member
Not really. I have seen many of these supposed contradictions. When context is added it does not say what those who cherry pick scripture say they are saying. If you surface read it may appear that way until you read the surrounding contexts. I agree some things as a christian we believe by faith according to others that are eyewitnesses (e.g miracles, the super natural, creation) but this is no less then those who live by faith that cannot prove there is no God and that these things did not happen. What is shameful is you who cannot see your own contradictions in your own post living by faith as much as I do. :)

By all means read the contradictions and anachronisms in context.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Wrong again. I used the book of truth to show humans are wrong.

Moreover, let me expound on my last post. I thought before 2019 that atheists would be shown they were wrong in hell. However, that isn't the case. The atheist who said the greatest thing an atheist ever said would be shown proof as well as those whom he mentioned. If I was an atheist and believed what this guy said, then found out that God had already answered him in the Bible, I would fall down on my face to worship God and say I was wrong and beg for forgiveness. Fortunately, my pretty face is saved by faith.
No, the Bible has been shown to be far from a book of truth.

The rest of your rather garbled post is difficult to understand. But it appears that you have a very poor understanding of proof.
 

Galateasdream

Active Member
You are correct, I am only sharing the scriptures simply as a help nothing more. Condensed and simply the scriptures teach (not me) the fruit of a "christian" is believing and following what God's Word says. The fruit of "unbelievers" is not doing what God's Word says (scriptures already provided in the earlier posts). :)

Well, if that means a Christian is someone who follows the literal interpretation of what the bible teaches, then no, I am not a Christian. I haven't given all my money to the poor for a start.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Some people are of a kind that true Christians do.
I have to wonder about the faith of those Christians. They are always the ones that proclaim their faith the strongest, that alone seems rather suspicious to me since the Bible advises humbleness in those matters. Yet they have the gall to tell their God how he had to make the world. You would think that if they really believed they would accept their God's work.
 

Dan From Smithville

"We are both impressed and daunted." Cargn
Staff member
Premium Member
Thanks

And your solution would be what? Let the achient Jews social services look after the girl. Maybe not but I await your logical solution
I am trying to wrap my head around this.

Are you saying that because of the times a family couldn't just ignore culture and recognize a raped daughter as a victim, care for her, help her heal and seek justice for her? And we are supposed to be ok with that lofted up as equal to the Golden Rule and accept it?

That's rubbish.
 

McBell

Admiral Obvious
I am trying to wrap my head around this.

Are you saying that because of the times a family couldn't just ignore culture and recognize a raped daughter as a victim, care for her, help her heal and seek justice for her? And we are supposed to be ok with that lofted up as equal to the Golden Rule and accept it?

That's rubbish.
It is even more disgusting when you realize that he is saying his god could not tell them to
 

Dan From Smithville

"We are both impressed and daunted." Cargn
Staff member
Premium Member
I have to wonder about the faith of those Christians. They are always the ones that proclaim their faith the strongest, that alone seems rather suspicious to me since the Bible advises humbleness in those matters. Yet they have the gall to tell their God how he had to make the world. You would think that if they really believed they would accept their God's work.
I am curious about claims of strong faith, strong understanding, not casting judgment, and comfort and security in belief contrasted with roaring around,, touchy at every comment and judging everyone that disagrees as doomed and not true Christians. It is a contradiction in defense of contradictions.
 

Galateasdream

Active Member
Well, this thread took a little turn sideways ... Lol :)

No worries, I guess it was bound to happen.

Just to remind folk of what I was really after: what key contradiction, moral terror text, error or whatnot, is most supportive of a non-inerrantist position?

And @QuestioningMind
Using female pronouns for me has made my night, thank you :). I'm quite comfortable with either, but that was cute whether intentional or not :)
 
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