Biblical Archaeology.

[mickiel]

I don't like being called an ignorant hypocrite , and I don't have to respond to the people who call me that, such as you did. My not responding to you is my action against your behavior, because its not the first time you, or immortal flame have blurted out such verbal disrespect towards me.

I didn't ask this website to take action against you two, I took my own action, which is why I willnot respond to you again.

Peace.

Its really bad when people show disrespect, but then want those that they disrespect to be punished. Its like someone spitting in your face, then getting mad at you for not liking that being done, and then looking to get you punished for not liking getting spit on.

Thats bad man.

Peace.

 

[The Neo Nerd]

I thought you werent going to respond to me ever again. Once again you have lied. I did not call you an ignorant hypocrite. You did.

You have repeatedly refused to enter into reasonable debate with ANYONE no matter how polite they were. You have repeatedly stated that you are not here to discuss anything. In so doing you are showing that you are not here to discuss anything but to preach your views. Preaching is against the forum rules.

Also concerning your "proof of god" threads please read this:

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/forum-news-announcements/88875-great-rf-proof-god-fiasco.html

Nothing i said in that post was a personal attack. I did however make derogatory remarks about your posts, which is allowable and definitely not a personal attack.

 

[mickiel]

I thought you werent going to respond to me ever again. Once again you have lied. I did not call you an ignorant hypocrite. You did.

You have repeatedly refused to enter into reasonable debate with ANYONE .

I have never called myself no such thing, and I am not a liar, and I am refusing to debate with those who personally insult me and do not show common respect in conversation, what forum rules does that break. You the one not telling the truth, you claim I am refusing to debate " Anyone", which is extremely false.

You are going to the extreme in order to get this website to join your crusade against me.

But I understand why, your not the first one whos skin I have gotten under.

I am done with you now.

Peace on your crusade.

 

[mickiel]

Archaeology is " Digging up what's down." The science of Archaeology is comparatively new in one sense, in the past, it was more of a " Treasure hunt", they were mostly looking for things of monetary value. No records of findings were kept in the early stages of this science.

So I want to go into a little backround of Archaeology, to help show how the science has grown.

Peace.

 

[gnostic]

You can provide proof after proof, evidence after evidence, and they still are unable to see it. I think its because God has preconditioned their minds not to see it, which is why I waste no time trying to prove things to them. These postings are not for them, I post for two reasons, to show what and why I believe, and to then share what I believe to those interested. The bible is a goldmine of history. Most Archaeologist who are interested in it, have used it as a map to make their finds.

And twice as many have found to be false, unproven, unfounded.

You have provided a single evidence to this thread of yours, mickiel.

From the Genesis to Solomon, nothing can be verified. Using real locations in the bible prove nothing, because other Sumerian, Babylonian, Greek and Irish myths used many really locations for their narratives too, but it doesn't prove what were written in the myths to be real. The same can be said about a large part of the bible.

 

[mickiel]

And twice as many have found to be false, unproven, unfounded.

You have provided a single evidence to this thread of yours, mickiel.

.

I have provided over 100, and you see none.

Shows you how different the human perception can be.

Peace.

 

[fallingblood]

I don't like being called an ignorant hypocrite , and I don't have to respond to the people who call me that, such as you did. My not responding to you is my action against your behavior, because its not the first time you, or immortal flame have blurted out such verbal disrespect towards me.

I didn't ask this website to take action against you two, I took my own action, which is why I willnot respond to you again.

Peace.

I have not disrespected you and you still have not responded to what I've stated. You do refuse to accept any arguments against your position and all that you are doing is trying to force your view down other people's throats. That's all that your thread has been about.

 

[fallingblood]

I have provided over 100, and you see none.

Shows you how different the human perception can be.

Peace.

I can do the same for many fiction books as well. Should we label them as actual history?

 

[mickiel]

I can do the same for many fiction books as well. Should we label them as actual history?

Give me a list of the evidence I have presented that you consider inaccurate and why. I have given over 100 evidences, why not just start with , what, how about 10 of them.

List the ten, give your dispute of them, and I think thats how to discredit a thread, discredit the evidence, not the person.

Peace.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Give me a list of the evidence I have presented that you consider inaccurate and why. I have given over 100 evidences, why not just start with , what, how about 10 of them.

List the ten, give your dispute of them, and I think thats how to discredit a thread, discredit the evidence, not the person.

You've not presented any evidence, just lists of places.

 

[mickiel]

Today Archaeology is different than it used to be, the governments of countries where " Digs" are conducted require permits to excavate, and their departments of " Antiquity" have prior claim on all findings for their own museums. Techniques have been developed which have modernized archaeology. While the tools may seem primitive-- picks and shovels, pen-knives and paint brushes, we have all the advantages of modern science to help with the findings. Aerial cameras, airborne magneto meters, ultra violet rays and carbon machines just to name a few.

These and more are used to give validity.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Today Archaeology is different than it used to be, the governments of countries where " Digs" are conducted require permits to excavate, and their departments of " Antiquity" have prior claim on all findings for their own museums. Techniques have been developed which have modernized archaeology. While the tools may seem primitive-- picks and shovels, pen-knives and paint brushes, we have all the advantages of modern science to help with the findings. Aerial cameras, airborne magneto meters, ultra violet rays and carbon machines just to name a few.

These and more are used to give validity.

And I want to go into that.

And this does what for the validity of your claims?

 

[mickiel]

Modern Archaeology is an intricate and cooperative effort to give a new library about mans past. The archaic cry for proof is just a cry now, we are pileing up on the proof. The dominance of ignorance is submitting to a new era of unpresidented information that is casting light on how exact the bible is in human history.

And I want to go into some of those lights.

Peace.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Modern Archaeology is an intricate and cooperative effort to give a new library about mans past. The archaic cry for proof is just a cry now, we are pileing up on the proof. The dominance of ignorance is submitting to a new era of unpresidented information that is casting light on how exact the bible is in human history.

And I want to go into some of those lights.

Again, can you present any of this "library of information" that, in any way, supports your claims?

 

[fallingblood]

Give me a list of the evidence I have presented that you consider inaccurate and why. I have given over 100 evidences, why not just start with , what, how about 10 of them.

List the ten, give your dispute of them, and I think thats how to discredit a thread, discredit the evidence, not the person.

Peace.

You missed the point. No one is stating that there is some historical facts in the Bible. That is expected. We see that to be true in any number of fictional stories. The same is true for any number of fictional movies even. Just because they contain some actual truth does not mean they are correct in all though.

I've already shown where the Bible has been incorrect. There are many instances that there is no evidence for a variety of stories. There is no found Garden of Eden. There is no found walls of Jericho. There was no Noah ark, and no evidence for any global flood. There is no evidence for the supposed creation story. There is no evidence that Herod the Great Massacred infants in order to try to kill Jesus. There no evidence that Moses, Abraham, or many other of the prophets existed. Even the formation of the nation of Israel does no coincide with what the Bible states. When it all comes down, there are countless examples of where the Bible is incorrect.

A couple of examples of where the Bible is correct means absolutely nothing. Fiction uses the same exact tools.

 

[mickiel]

wrong person, ignore this post please.

Peace..

 

[mickiel]

Again, can you present any of this "library of information" that, in any way, supports your claims?

Give me your apoligy and I will resume the debate with you, if not, I have nothing for you.

Peace.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Give me your apoligy and I will resume the debate with you, if not, I have nothing for you.

Why should I apologize to you? Don't change the subject.

 

[mickiel]

Why should I apologize to you? Don't change the subject.

For me and you there can be no subject, if you will not show respect, then you do not wish debate with me.

Again, peace with you.

 

[mickiel]

I want to say something to all believers, which I rarely do. Differences aside, if ever believers needed evidence such as archaeology provides, it is now! Each of you need to take your own expedition into the discovery that supports your belief, and Archaeology is a gold mine of support.

The Spirit of God will help you to discover things in your own life, your own Consciousness, that could be used in revealing himself to you. But his " Living Message" holds plenty of evidence that is " Outside of your life", and you need to be about the business of discovering it for yourself. In it is more Hope for a lost and dying world.

I pray God bless your mind and fill your Consciousness with Real solid evidence that he does exist.

Peace on your journey.

Mickiel.