Hey! She said no more jokes.
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We're just suspending jokes about assault. To dis the mental prowess of an entire gender is still acceptable...especially when I'm so obviously wrongo pongo.Hey! She said no more jokes.
You are just too rational & wise (for a girlie).
What about not actaully attacking and misrepresenting their words, mine for instance? hahaYes....let's suspend all humor about any poster attacking another.
So how do you get away with personal attacks, not mentioning their name, is that how it works?Just trying to keep everyone warm.
What was wrong with mine. My mention of attack was the verbal attack as I have hadYes.
We are addressing impropriety of jokes about sexual assault at this very moment. I'm saying that post #345 is as problematic as Bob's posts. Both were in jest, but both do trivialize assault to some extent.
Yes, we should endeavor ("endeavour" for Wirey) to understand intent, since there is more agreement than all this bickering would indicate.What about not actaully attacking and misrepresenting their words, mine for instance? haha
Yeah, like we know what we're talking about.Don't go making fun of the girls, or they'll all be wandering around, scrunching up their faces in a vain attempt to understand what the men are talking about.
...so Americanistanians can't spell endeavour, then.....Yes, we should endeavor ("endeavour" for Wirey) to understand intent, since there is more agreement than all this bickering would indicate.
That's "Americastanians", bub!...so Americanistanians can't spell endeavour, then.....
Americastanians my bottom!That's "Americastanians", bub!
...you're clever...... and wise!Without wood a fire goes out; without a gossip a quarrel dies down. Proverbs 26:20 So there!
That's not fair!We talk funny?
And......
All's fair in love & sociolinguistics, ya weepy ole whiner!That's not fair!
It isn't just that your heated rhetoric is unhelpful. You're also demonstrably wrong.I think you have just demonstrated why trying to reason with you is absolutely worthless.
Have fun flaunting the medieval puke you have spouted in this thread and others. Just keep in mind that, thankfully, a lot of (or most) people here are most likely just going to look at what you've been saying with utter contempt and disdain.
Even those who rape because of sociopathic instincts can have their threat mitigated by education, eg, training potential victims to defeat the attack. But rape is increasingly a matter of inadequate consent. This can be dealt with effectively by educating potential perps of how they might unknowingly make illegal choices. How effective can it be? I don't know, but it any reduction in assault makes it worth the effort.I do not share the opinion that we can "educate" our way out of a problem that is a result of instincts as deeply ingrained in humans as the sex drive and mating dance. It would be nice if we could, but I don't see it happening any time in the foreseeable future. Putting up with rape and other forms of sexually irresponsible behavior or putting up with social restrictions look like the choices to me.
What Evans is advocating has been the standard(approximately) nearly everywhere for nearly all of history. There isn't anything particularly "medieval" about it. Most places it is currently the norm. Here in western places it was the norm until the 20th century. We westerners started emphasizing personal freedom and risk taking a few decades ago. Most people, most places, for most of history, emphasized propriety and security and still do.
Unsurprisingly, one of the outcomes of modern western prioritizing is an upswing in irresponsible sexual behavior, including rape. Whether the downside outweighs the upside is a matter of personal opinion. But is not at all unpredictable. There is a reason that interaction between men and women is restricted most places. It is to prevent the sort of problems being discussed in this thread.