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Bill Cosby.....You Know You Wanna Discuss It.

Wirey

Fartist
You are just too rational & wise (for a girlie).

Don't go making fun of the girls, or they'll all be wandering around, scrunching up their faces in a vain attempt to understand what the men are talking about.

BTW, what's the difference between Bill Cosby and Alex Rodriguez? ARod only drugged himself to get women!
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Yes.
We are addressing impropriety of jokes about sexual assault at this very moment. I'm saying that post #345 is as problematic as Bob's posts. Both were in jest, but both do trivialize assault to some extent.
What was wrong with mine. My mention of attack was the verbal attack as I have had
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I am amazed that Cosby is out walk'n around, a free man. I know, I know, he hasn't been tried. But the fact that he's evaded prosecution is amazing. I hope the publicity makes everyone wary, so that there are no new victims.
 
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columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I think you have just demonstrated why trying to reason with you is absolutely worthless.

Have fun flaunting the medieval puke you have spouted in this thread and others. Just keep in mind that, thankfully, a lot of (or most) people here are most likely just going to look at what you've been saying with utter contempt and disdain.
It isn't just that your heated rhetoric is unhelpful. You're also demonstrably wrong.

What Evans is advocating has been the standard(approximately) nearly everywhere for nearly all of history. There isn't anything particularly "medieval" about it. Most places it is currently the norm. Here in western places it was the norm until the 20th century. We westerners started emphasizing personal freedom and risk taking a few decades ago. Most people, most places, for most of history, emphasized propriety and security and still do.
Unsurprisingly, one of the outcomes of modern western prioritizing is an upswing in irresponsible sexual behavior, including rape. Whether the downside outweighs the upside is a matter of personal opinion. But is not at all unpredictable. There is a reason that interaction between men and women is restricted most places. It is to prevent the sort of problems being discussed in this thread.

I do not share the opinion that we can "educate" our way out of a problem that is a result of instincts as deeply ingrained in humans as the sex drive and mating dance. It would be nice if we could, but I don't see it happening any time in the foreseeable future. Putting up with rape and other forms of sexually irresponsible behavior or putting up with social restrictions look like the choices to me.

Tom
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I do not share the opinion that we can "educate" our way out of a problem that is a result of instincts as deeply ingrained in humans as the sex drive and mating dance. It would be nice if we could, but I don't see it happening any time in the foreseeable future. Putting up with rape and other forms of sexually irresponsible behavior or putting up with social restrictions look like the choices to me.
Even those who rape because of sociopathic instincts can have their threat mitigated by education, eg, training potential victims to defeat the attack. But rape is increasingly a matter of inadequate consent. This can be dealt with effectively by educating potential perps of how they might unknowingly make illegal choices. How effective can it be? I don't know, but it any reduction in assault makes it worth the effort.
 

JerryL

Well-Known Member
What Evans is advocating has been the standard(approximately) nearly everywhere for nearly all of history. There isn't anything particularly "medieval" about it. Most places it is currently the norm. Here in western places it was the norm until the 20th century. We westerners started emphasizing personal freedom and risk taking a few decades ago. Most people, most places, for most of history, emphasized propriety and security and still do.

Unsurprisingly, one of the outcomes of modern western prioritizing is an upswing in irresponsible sexual behavior, including rape. Whether the downside outweighs the upside is a matter of personal opinion. But is not at all unpredictable. There is a reason that interaction between men and women is restricted most places. It is to prevent the sort of problems being discussed in this thread.

So in places like Ruwanda, ISIL-controlled Iral, Somalia, India... Rape is less of a problem there?

Really?

No. What the west has is a higher reporting rate.
 
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