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Birth of Jesus in summer, according to Qur'an

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Australian astronomer Dave Reneke used complex computer software to chart the exact positions of all celestial bodies and map the night sky as it would have appeared over the Holy Land more than 2,000 years ago.
It revealed a spectacular astronomical event around the time of Jesus's birth.
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yeah, right... nice try there :slap: can't blame him though, he just wanted some snow for christmas :rolleyes:
 
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yeah, right... nice try there :slap: can't blame him though, he just wanted some snow for christmas :rolleyes:
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the principle of calculation depending on "Bright star" is not trustworthy
I think that bright star is something related to Phoenix Mythology ,

If we continue the story (without asking ourselves how on earth would a star fly and chase the new born Child Jesus and stand exactly above him?!!)
and then read the following verse:
Mat 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.
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we may find something in Poenix mythology similar to this story

lets take a look at "CLEMENT OF ROME, First Epistle" chapter 25


CHAPTER 25 -- THE PHOENIX AN EMBLEM OF OUR RESURRECTION. Let us consider that wonderful sign [of the resurrection] which takes place in Eastern lands, that is, in Arabia and the countries round about. There is a certain bird which is called a phoenix. This is the only one of its kind, and lives five hundred years. And when the time of its dissolution draws near that it must die, it builds itself a nest of frankincense, and myrrh, and other spices, into which, when the time is fulfilled, it enters and dies. But as the flesh decays a certain kind of worm is produced, which, being nourished by the juices of the dead bird, brings forth feathers. Then, when it has acquired strength, it takes up that nest in which are the bones of its parent, and bearing these it passes from the land of Arabia into Egypt, to the city called Heliopolis. And, in open day, flying in the sight of all men, it places them on the altar of the sun, and having done this, hastens back to its former abode. The priests then inspect the registers of the dates, and find that it has returned exactly as the five hundredth year was completed.


Mat 2:12 And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.
Mat 2:13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.​
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I can see many similarities between the two stories , so that I think that depending on a mythology related story to calculate(scientifically) the date of Jesus Birth is inconvenience
 
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Nabeel Akhalwaya Motala said:
Well then this was a birthday question to begin with, so why the hell did you even bother to answer it if you care not for birthdays?
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where did I "answer the question"?

I was making a joke about an australian astronomer saying the date is june... which is when it's winter in australia, you know? *sigh*
 
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I made a joke, you didn't understand it. that doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. making a little one-liner is not a horrible crime, and you kinda are being the clown who is going nuts over it... though I'll admit, it was a lame joke, and nowhere near as funny as you taking it so seriously.
 
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yeah yeah, more random non-sequiturs. you hate language! at night, you sneak into the library and say mean things to dictionaries, I know it. or as you would put it, I know your kind.
 
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