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[Aupmanyav]

Yogi Adityanath, Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh, India's largest state (1/6 of the Indian population, 220 million).

Mahant Yogi Adityanath (born 1972) is the head of Gorakhnath Mutt, Gorakhpur. A star campaigner for the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), he was a member of Indian Parliament for five consecutive terms since 1998. He is a science graduate, and took 'sannyasa' at the age of 22. In 2014, after the death of his spiritual father, Yogi Avaidyanath, he became the chief of the Gorakh Mutt. He belongs to Natha Sampradaya, which is very close to Vinayaka's sampradaya. Nath - Wikipedia

You will read many adverse comments in Indian and foreign media about Yogi Adityanath, but let me assert that all these reports come from those who are anti-Hindu. He is a very strong character and the only one who can straighten the lawless state of Uttar Pradesh. Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) or Rashtriya Swayam Sevak Sangh (RSS) are not anti-Muslim or anti-Christian, though they will like to keep them in their proper place. There will be no appeasement of these religions as was happening right from independence. They will need to follow the law of the land. By taking the oath, Yogi Adityanath has confirmed that he will treat all religions equally. To begin with, he has a Muslim member in his cabinet.

 

[Aupmanyav]

1) Participating in village panchayats and developmental and outreach programs
2) Interning with local, state and national governments
3) Learning multiple languages
4) Being part of an youth delegation in diplomatic missions etc.

These things are being done, Sayak, at least with RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh). Young children are admitted in their congregations (shakhas) and taught to love their country. Some people do not marry for a long time and participate in the various educational and social projects of RSS. Some at a later stage, join BJP and contest in local, state and parliamentary elections. Those who are found wantingor are corrupt, are removed. This is the way BJP gets its leaders. Modi, Adityanath and all others have come up through this process. No one gets to be a BJP leader without many years of toil.

 

[Aupmanyav]

"However, the religious leader, often vilified for his brand of politics, seems to share a rapport with Muslims in his bastion of Gorakhpur. A trader in Gorakhpur, Mohammed Kaleem Farooqui told Hindustan Times: “We welcome the move to make Yogi CM of UP. It seems now that some good change will come to Gorakhpur and the state as a whole. The government is not the government of a particular person. We all have elected the government and feel it will ensure the state's development.” Syed Ahmed, a garment trader, said: "This is something we wanted from our heart. Now wherever we go, we will feel proud because we belong to CM's city."

"Another publication, the Times of India, reported that a large number of Muslims were seen celebrating Adityanath’s elevation. Irfan Ahmad, a member of the BJP Alpsankhyak Morcha (Minorities Front) told TOI: “He has become chief minister, we don't want anything more as he knows our problems and will do everything to solve them. Today I will also play Holi with Yogi colour."
Despite hardline Hindutva image, Muslims in Gorakhpur celebrate Yogi Adityanath's elevation as UP CM | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

However, the government officer have heaved a sigh of relief knowing that Yogi will not ask them to transgress the law as the earlier governments always did.

 

[Kirran]

@Aupmanyav - ‘Rape Dead Muslim Women' said Yogi Adityanath, Modi made him Chief Minister of UP in India - The London Post

Yogi Adityanath has instructed angry crowds to dig up Muslim women from their graves and rape their bodies.

 

[sayak83]

@Aupmanyav - ‘Rape Dead Muslim Women' said Yogi Adityanath, Modi made him Chief Minister of UP in India - The London Post

Yogi Adityanath has instructed angry crowds to dig up Muslim women from their graves and rape their bodies.

We shall see how he and his team does. People of India will hold him to his promises and assess his performance based on it.
Yogi Adityanath Says 'Will Work For All Sections Without Discrimination': 10 Points

 

[Aupmanyav]

Yogi Adityanath has instructed angry crowds to dig up Muslim women from their graves and rape their bodies.

Ah, foreign Christian propaganda. Election rhetoric does not describe a person. I do not believe he ever said that, not even for an election.

 

[Kirran]

Ah, foreign Christian propaganda. Election rhetoric does not describe a person. I do not believe he ever said that, not even for an election.

I don't speak Hindi, but perhaps you, @sayak83 (right?) or someone else who understands it here can watch the video and see what he says.

I don't know see where Christians got involved. As for it being just "election rhetoric" - if saying something like that isn't enough to disqualify you in the eyes of the public, something is very wrong.

 

[sayak83]

I don't speak Hindi, but perhaps you, @sayak83 (right?) or someone else who understands it here can watch the video and see what he says.

I don't know see where Christians got involved. As for it being just "election rhetoric" - if saying something like that isn't enough to disqualify you in the eyes of the public, something is very wrong.

Here is the newspaper reporting of it:-
Will work for all sections of society without any discrimination: UP chief minister Yogi Adityanath - Times of India

That's the promise, let's see how he fulfills it.

I do think he should resign his post as priest of the Gorakhnath temple. Not sure what the Constitution says in this matter.

 

[Kirran]

Here is the newspaper reporting of it:-
Will work for all sections of society without any discrimination: UP chief minister Yogi Adityanath - Times of India

That's the promise, let's see how he fulfills it.

I do think he should resign his post as priest of the Gorakhnath temple. Not sure what the Constitution says in this matter.

Yes, that it a positive promise, I agree. But it's still pretty deplorable, to say the least, that a man who said during campaigning that Muslim women should be dug up from their graves and raped still gets elected, regardless of such promises. Nevertheless, that is the situation on the ground now, so that's what's being worked with.

That is a little odd. It doesn't seem especially sannyasin-ish! But there are quite a few sadhus etc in the Lok Sabha already.

 

[sayak83]

Yes, that it a positive promise, I agree. But it's still pretty deplorable, to say the least, that a man who said during campaigning that Muslim women should be dug up from their graves and raped still gets elected, regardless of such promises. Nevertheless, that is the situation on the ground now, so that's what's being worked with.

That is a little odd. It doesn't seem especially sannyasin-ish! But there are quite a few sadhus etc in the Lok Sabha already.

They are the Natha-s. Their history is interesting.
Gorakshanath - Wikipedia
Nath - Wikipedia

I do not think being measured in speech is something that is taught in the tradition.

 

[Kirran]

They are the Natha-s. Their history is interesting.
Gorakshanath - Wikipedia
Nath - Wikipedia

I do not think being measured in speech is something that is taught in the tradition.

I do like the Nath traditions a lot. In any renunciate group, that'll come in time as a result of good sadhana. But, as I am sure you know, many people in India take sannyas spuriously.

 

[sayak83]

I do like the Nath traditions a lot. In any renunciate group, that'll come in time as a result of good sadhana. But, as I am sure you know, many people in India take sannyas spuriously.

true. as i said, we shall see.

 

[Kirran]

true. as i said, we shall see.

Vinayaka's sampradaya is also a Nath tradition. It's a broad church, so to speak.

While I was in India I made the acquaintance of a young gay man (in the closet, unsurprisingly) who said he knew a bloke who was gay and had become a sadhu cos that way he could avoid being forced into a marriage. The guy I knew knew that guy because he didn't exactly stick to celibacy.

 

[Aupmanyav]

I don't speak Hindi, but perhaps you, @sayak83 (right?) or someone else who understands it here can watch the video and see what he says.

I don't know see where Christians got involved. As for it being just "election rhetoric" - if saying something like that isn't enough to disqualify you in the eyes of the public, something is very wrong.

Quirks of Indian elections law. If something is said before the elections are announced, then police can act according to what was said. In that case police has to provide evidence that something objectionable was said and the case of go on, perhaps take a decade for decision. If something is said after the election has been announced, then Election Commission will take immediate action. I think what Yogi said must have been before the elections were announced. He was talking about Muslim boys marrying Hindu girls with the only intention of making them change their religion (termed as Love Jihad, happens in West also and is a fact of life). As far as I remember, he said the religion of one Hindu girl was changed he would make sure that the religion of 100 Muslim girls would be changed in a similar manner (Reverse Love Jihad). That it is reported in a Western newspaper is the Christian angle, when the good things about India are overlooked to propagate what is not good to look at. BBC is famous for doing that.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Will work for all sections of society without any discrimination: UP chief minister Yogi Adityanath - Times of India
That's the promise, let's see how he fulfills it. I do think he should resign his post as priest of the Gorakhnath temple. Not sure what the Constitution says in this matter.

That is the next step for BJP, getting Muslim vote for complete domination. Already, BJP's opposition to the practice of 'triple talaq' has made it favorable to Muslim women who are disadvantaged by the Shariah law. Modi has asked the Supreme court to comment on Muslim polygamy also. There are reports that Muslim women have voted for BJP against the wishes of their men. When the Muslim politicians will find no success for their fundamentalism, they would join the main-stream. That is the basic strategy. In Uttar Pradesh, the number of Muslim legislators has come down from 69 to 24. They must be chafing under the loss of power. Muslim voters will also see that voting for anti-BJP candidates brings no benefit to them but only confrontation. Indian democracy is a very dynamic thing.

As I reported earlier, Muslims of Gorakhpur are delighted to see him as the Chief Minister, and as reported in newspapers, his temple premises have many Muslim shopkeepers. His educational and health institutions cater to all sections of the society. In their festivals, the Mutt does not differentiate for religion or caste. Many dalits are priests at the temple. Vinayaka's sect (Nandinatha) and that of Yogi Adityanath, consider it a crime to differentiate between people or any living being. They consider all to be forms of Lord Shiva.

There is no Constitutional problem in Yogi contesting the election and becoming the Chief Minister. He is a citizen. His religion does not matter as it does not matter for a Muslim cleric to contest the election. Though he must confirm to Indian Constitution, i.e., he must not be partial to any religious group. If he does that, then he will be questioned by law.

 

[Aupmanyav]

But, as I am sure you know, many people in India take sannyas spuriously.

That is not very correct. Adityanth is not just a 'sannyasi', he is a 'mathadheesh', with a huge following in India as well as in Nepal. That binds him to the society and nation. A 'mathadheesh' is as much concerned with the state of society as with his 'sadhana'. Taking care of the society/country is part of his 'sadhana'. The Naga Sadhus also hold the same view. You might find it interesting to read the Fakir/Sannyasi rebellion against the British in late 18th Century. Fakir-Sannyasi rebellion - Wikipedia

While I was in India I made the acquaintance of a young gay man (in the closet, unsurprisingly) who said he knew a bloke who was gay and had become a sadhu cos that way he could avoid being forced into a marriage. The guy I knew knew that guy because he didn't exactly stick to celibacy.

Yeah, it happens. There are all types of guys. Hinduism understands that.

 

[Vinayaka]

That is the next step for BJP, getting Muslim vote for complete domination. Already, BJP's opposition to the practice of 'triple talaq' has made it favorable to Muslim women who are disadvantaged by the Shariah law.

This says so much. If Hindutva truly was how it is portrayed in the west, they wouldn't get a single Muslim vote. Not one. Obviously many Muslims can recognise fair play when they see it.

 

[Kirran]

This says so much. If Hindutva truly was how it is portrayed in the west, they wouldn't get a single Muslim vote. Not one. Obviously many Muslims can recognise fair play when they see it.

I honestly can't see how it is to many people are calmly ignoring or brushing aside the fact that in the name of this ideology a man has been elected who was telling the public to dig up Muslim women from their graves and rape their bodies.

 

[sayak83]

I honestly can't see how it is to many people are calmly ignoring or brushing aside the fact that in the name of this ideology a man has been elected who was telling the public to dig up Muslim women from their graves and rape their bodies.

Actually he did not. He had made other controversial statements but that one was made by an unidentified man in an event where he was an attendee (check wikipedia and other sources.) These are the actual comments that he had made in the past
From love jihad, conversion to SRK: 10 controversial comments by UP’s new CM Yogi Adityanath

 

[Kirran]

Actually he did not. He had made other controversial statements but that one was made by an unidentified man in an event where he was an attendee (check wikipedia and other sources.) These are the actual comments that he had made in the past
From love jihad, conversion to SRK: 10 controversial comments by UP’s new CM Yogi Adityanath

Ah, you are sure? It appears my sources have been in error, if so. Still, not a great political climate being fostered, it strikes me. Ah well.