Altfish
Veteran Member
So you do actually agree that we have Free Speech.
At least you are beginning to realise that.
Even scaremongering is allowed.
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British Values
- Thread starter Notanumber
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At least you are beginning to realise that.
Even scaremongering is allowed.
Anthem
Active Member
In fact a lot of people would pay for that kind of thing.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Says a mad mullah - do you really believe it will happen?
In Italy people can't stand Catholicism any more...let alone a foreign religion.
That said,, you cannot deny that in UK your politicians are too subservient towards that religion
Altfish
Veteran Member
Oh, yeah. We've got problems with religion in the UK. How come there are 20 bishops in our Parliament, unelected Christians given positions of power.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Altfish
Veteran Member
Have you heard of The Creation Museum, The Flat Earth Society - there are lots of crackpots about. They will NOT be successful.
Shad
Veteran Member
Take a look at the stand Hungry and Poland are making against immigration. EU is threatening loss of voting rights for one of it's own member states for practicing sovereignty within it's own borders
Sovereignty or failing to live up the international agreements it signed up to when it joined.
If you join a club, they're gonna penalise you when you don't follow their rules. And especially if you're going against the club's ethos and not pulling your weight.
Shad
Veteran Member
Neither violated any agreement. Hungry is being charged with "value" crimes by not taking in immigrants according to article 2 which says nothing about immigrants.
The EU Is not a state nor a club. More so if you think this nonsense is actually practiced the UN would have collapsed before the ink was dry. Sovereignty is only acceptable when the EU bureaucrats agree with it.
It just seems very fair to me that if the EU as a group decides OK we're gonna work together and do this, and some countries say nah we aren't gonna help, then the EU takes away privileges.
Not that I even support the EU, really. I did vote Remain at the time, but I suspect I'd vote Leave if we had a do-over.
1) A sovereign country cannot be obligated to lose its own monoethnicity, especially after seeing what multiculturalism has done to Britain.
2) Monoethnicity in Hungary is a constitutional value
3) If the Brussels technocrats will try to impose the multicultural model on the Slavic countries, my country, Italy will do anything to undo this EU...primarily by dethroning the technocrats.
Altfish
Veteran Member
I'm from Britain. I love multiculturalism; it is great, different ethnic groups mixing together. Different music, food, fashion are all fantastic. Bring it on.
Anthem
Active Member
I think the wording here is funny. They aren't "obliged to lose their "monoethnicity"" but for instance the EU countries are obliged to take refugees. So it they lose their "monoethnicity" because of filling the other duty... well it isn't that they're obliged to lose "monoethnicity" but that they are obliged to fulfill the duties that come with belonging to the EU.
but Italy does not have "monoetnicity", or does it? And who wants it anyway? Most EU countries are voluntarily multicultural.
Anthem
Active Member
Nah, you're in ruins, man. It's disgusting to look at.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Exactly, a dystopian outlook, no future for the UK.Nah, you're in ruins, man. It's disgusting to look at.
Must admit the right wing and Brexiteers are trying to make it so.
Anthem
Active Member
What Hungary is failing at (for one) is supporting EU's values. And those values are part of the agreement.
Anthem
Active Member
Sovereinity is not the same as doing anything within your means to stop people coming to your land for safety. Like abusing them, beating them, imprisoning them and prosecuting them.
Loss of voting rights is vague. Can you be more specific about what is threatening, and what voting rights and for what reason and for how long?
Anthem
Active Member
You have a link to that? Would be a very interesting phenomenon. And worrying. However (excuse my source and correct me if I'm wrong), wikipedia says 80% of Italians are catholic. And that is a large number.