British Values

[Notanumber]

The Jews have a safe haven in Israel, but the rest of us will need a safe haven when life becomes unbearable in the UK.

Will Hungary have the capacity to accept us non-Islamics?

 

[Estro Felino]

You have a link to that? Would be a very interesting phenomenon. And worrying. However (excuse my source and correct me if I'm wrong), wikipedia says 80% of Italians are catholic. And that is a large number.

As @Altfish said in a thread, religion is dying in Europe. We are Catholics by culture, of course.

I think the wording here is funny. They aren't "obliged to lose their "monoethnicity"" but for instance the EU countries are obliged to take refugees. So it they lose their "monoethnicity" because of filling the other duty... well it isn't that they're obliged to lose "monoethnicity" but that they are obliged to fulfill the duties that come with belonging to the EU.

but Italy does not have "monoetnicity", or does it? And who wants it anyway? Most EU countries are voluntarily multicultural.

We are already diverse. We don't need more diversity

Spoiler

 

[Anthem]

As @Altfish said in a thread, religion is dying in Europe. We are Catholics by culture, of course.

So it is true that there is no significant change...¿

 

[Altfish]

The Jews have a safe haven in Israel, but the rest of us will need a safe haven when life becomes unbearable in the UK.

Is Israel really a safe haven? I would argue that Jerusalem is one of the most unsafe cities in the world. It has got worse since Trump recognised it.

 

[Anthem]

The Jews have a safe haven in Israel, but the rest of us will need a safe haven when life becomes unbearable in the UK

You just let me know. I'll send you a post card with a bit of meat.

Will Hungary have the capacity to accept us non-Islamics?

Yes. But will you have the capacity to endure Hungary that can't take care of its own citizens?

 

[Anthem]

It has got worse since Trump recognised it.

Really, how? Source?

 

[Altfish]

Really, how? Source?

This paper says attacks have tripled...
Terror attacks tripled after Trump Jerusalem recognition, Shin Bet stats show

I don't know how reliable that paper is though.

 

[Anthem]

This paper says attacks have tripled...
Terror attacks tripled after Trump Jerusalem recognition, Shin Bet stats show

I don't know how reliable that paper is though.

Not very. But thanks

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

1) A sovereign country cannot be obligated to lose its own monoethnicity, especially after seeing what multiculturalism has done to Britain.

It isn't even 11:00 a.m. yet, but I'm going to predict that this will be the most xenophobic, racist statement I'll read all day.

 

[Anthem]

It isn't even 11:00 a.m. yet, but I'm going to predict that this will be the most xenophobic, racist statement I'll read all day.

I'm sure he'll be back still today.

 

[Kirran]

1) A sovereign country cannot be obligated to lose its own monoethnicity, especially after seeing what multiculturalism has done to Britain.

2) Monoethnicity in Hungary is a constitutional value

3) If the Brussels technocrats will try to impose the multicultural model on the Slavic countries, my country, Italy will do anything to undo this EU...primarily by dethroning the technocrats.

Fair enough. If values like those are common, then leave the EU, it's a perfectly legitimate thing to do. But don't remain in the EU and expect to be able to pick and choose.

I don't agree with these reasons to leave the EU. But I still think it's probably cool that the UK is leaving the EU, for different reasons.

 

[Kirran]

Lest people get the wrong idea, I wanna reassure people of differing views that Italians are of course highly ideologically diverse. While someone of certain views might try to peddle the image, and may even believe the image, that all their fellow nationals are of like mind, it is by no means likely to be the case. I've meant plenty of Italians, been friends with Italians, and honestly none of them who have expressed any political views to me at all have been of a (far-)right bent.

One guy was telling me quite contentedly how Italy is transitioning to become a multicultural country along the lines of the UK, France, USA, Canada, etc. A good friend of his was of Nigerian parentage, apparently.

 

[Notanumber]

There is a glimmer of hope.

 

[Altfish]

There is a glimmer of hope.

Good grief, posting UKIP videos now.

Even your führer disowns them...
Ukip faces 'utter marginalisation' if it embraces hard right, says Nigel Farage

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Take a look at the stand Hungry and Poland are making against immigration. EU is threatening loss of voting rights for one of it's own member states for practicing sovereignty within it's own borders

EU member states voted on whether or not more should be done to support states like Greece & Italy who are disproportionately affected by the refugee crisis. It was close but the majority voted that the wider EU should provide support and the vote was legally binding. Hungary is deciding to not respect the result of that vote; they've not taken any refugees in and they don't plan to. That's why they risk losing voting rights; if you don't respect the process you don't get to take part.

There is a glimmer of hope.

You view as "a glimmer of hope" a party manifesto that advocates for the segregation of the prison population with a view to creating Muslim-only prisons; destroying LGBTQ rights along with those of everyone who isn't a white Christian (by abolishing the 'hate crime' legal category as well as the Equalities Act 2010) and engages in dog-whistle politics by highlighting the issue of child rape at the hands of Muslims but utterly fails to address or respond to the Catholic church abuse scandal which has gone on for far longer and is more widespread...

That speaks volumes. Even your hero Farage finds this manifesto difficult to stomach. That should tell you something.

The Jews have a safe haven in Israel, but the rest of us will need a safe haven when life becomes unbearable in the UK.

Will Hungary have the capacity to accept us non-Islamics?

Hungary are discriminating on whether or not they accept refugees or 'migrants' as you call them. Good luck convincing the Hungarian government to accept an atheist migrant like yourself.

 

[Notanumber]

Good grief, posting UKIP videos now.

Even your führer disowns them...
Ukip faces 'utter marginalisation' if it embraces hard right, says Nigel Farage

Good as he is, Nigel like everyone else cannot be right about everything.

At least Gerard is addressing the elephant in the room.

Nigel’s only fault is that he is afraid of being called a racist.

 

[Notanumber]

EU member states voted on whether or not more should be done to support states like Greece & Italy who are disproportionately affected by the refugee crisis. It was close but the majority voted that the wider EU should provide support and the vote was legally binding. Hungary is deciding to not respect the result of that vote; they've not taken any refugees in and they don't plan to. That's why they risk losing voting rights; if you don't respect the process you don't get to take part.




You view as "a glimmer of hope" a party manifesto that advocates for the segregation of the prison population with a view to creating Muslim-only prisons; destroying LGBTQ rights along with those of everyone who isn't a white Christian (by abolishing the 'hate crime' legal category as well as the Equalities Act 2010) and engages in dog-whistle politics by highlighting the issue of child rape at the hands of Muslims but utterly fails to address or respond to the Catholic church abuse scandal which has gone on for far longer and is more widespread...

That speaks volumes. Even your hero Farage finds this manifesto difficult to stomach. That should tell you something.





Hungary are discriminating on whether or not they accept refugees or 'migrants' as you call them. Good luck convincing the Hungarian government to accept an atheist migrant like yourself.

Talk about double standards. The UKIP manifesto does not mention cutting people’s heads off and the very tips of their fingers, etc.

You are not seriously going to rely on Sharia Law to protect LGBTQ rights are you.

Surely, it would only need to be a very small prison as we are talking about housing the followers of the Religion of Peace.

If Hungary will not take us, all the more reason to rely on UKIP to protect us.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Talk about double standards. The UKIP manifesto does not mention cutting people’s heads off and the very tips of their fingers, etc.

You are not seriously going to rely on Sharia Law to protect LGBTQ rights are you.

Surely, it would only need to be a very small prison as we are talking about housing the followers of the Religion of Peace.

If Hungary will not take us, all the more reason to rely on UKIP to protect us.

Moronic false equivalence...

It's not a choice between Sharia law and Oberstabsrichter Batten and his Kampfgruppen Englisch. We have other, better options.

Stop dodging the issue: your preferred method of 'protecting' us from Sharia law involves a commensurate loss of rights & legal protections, the segregation of an entire religious group, throwing entire religious, sexual & racial demographics under the bus and the adoption of frankly Nazi-like policies. It's not a large step from Muslim-only prisons to Muslim-only camps.

Also, you're trying to claim you have the moral high ground yet you're appealing to the mores of Islam (the system you say is morally inferior) to justify disturbing policies. You're doing exactly what Islamic apologists do for their own arguments.

 

[Anthem]

Talk about double standards. The UKIP manifesto does not mention cutting people’s heads off and the very tips of their fingers, etc.

You are not seriously going to rely on Sharia Law to protect LGBTQ rights are you.

Surely, it would only need to be a very small prison as we are talking about housing the followers of the Religion of Peace.

If Hungary will not take us, all the more reason to rely on UKIP to protect us.

Sharia law? Are you high?

 

[Notanumber]

Moronic false equivalence...

It's not a choice between Sharia law and Oberstabsrichter Batten and his Kampfgruppen Englisch. We have other, better options.

Stop dodging the issue: your preferred method of 'protecting' us from Sharia law involves a commensurate loss of rights & legal protections, the segregation of an entire religious group, throwing entire religious, sexual & racial demographics under the bus and the adoption of frankly Nazi-like policies. It's not a large step from Muslim-only prisons to Muslim-only camps.

Also, you're trying to claim you have the moral high ground yet you're appealing to the mores of Islam (the system you say is morally inferior) to justify disturbing policies. You're doing exactly what Islamic apologists do for their own arguments.

If we have better options, why are they not being employed?

Tommy Robinson should never have been sent to a Muslim dominated prison. The prison service has a duty of care to protect their inmates. This is not happening. How many inmates are being forced to convert to Islam for their own safety?

There is nothing Nazi about UKIP, but a society that allows children to be sexually abused and raped on our streets and nothing is done because it might offend a religion is heading in that direction.

Sex abuse gangs view white girls as 'worthless' and 'trash'

The Labour MP for Rotherham - where at least 1,400 children were sexually over 16 years - said there was a need to acknowledge that most perpetrators in grooming scandals "have been British-Pakistani".

Sarah Champion said people were "more afraid to be called a racist than they are afraid to be wrong about calling out child abuse".

She added: "We've got now hundreds of men, Pakistani men, who have been convicted of this crime - why are we not commissioning research to see what's going on and how we need to change what's going on so it never happens again?"

If you were convicted of a crime, would you want to be sent to a prison that is dominated by these perpetrators?

If only our current leaders talked as much sense as this man.