Underhill
Well-Known Member
What you don't understand is that if you don't pick and choose the verses, but actually accept the message as a whole, you will end up being a pacifist if you are a Christian and a Jihad fighter if you are a Muslim. You atheists cannot understand this because you don't know what is to believe in something. You think that our interpretation of the sacred texts depends on our cultural values, when in fact it is the exact opposite: our cultural values depend on our interpretation of the text. The only atheist that comes close to understanding this is Sam Harris, since he has pointed out that the link between Islam and violence cannot be a coincidence. He has acknowledged the fact that Christians are peaceful because their role model, Jesus, is peaceful, whereas Muslims are violent because their role model, Muhammad, was a warlord.
What you don't understand, is that I have a firm grasp of the bible as a whole. I spent 15 years of my life as a christian. Went to church, sunday school, private christian school and a year of bible college. So you can stow the condescension.
Jesus is a role model to modern moderate christians. But tell me then how the crusades were justified? How slavery was justified? How the klan justifies their behavior? How those who bomb abortion clinics justify their behavior? And you know that is just the tip of the iceberg.
My point is simple. The old testament, which is not written off by many christians, allows for justification of a whole host of evil behavior. Just as picking and choosing which portion of Muhammad's life you will emulate gives different messages to different people.
Most religions with any success do the same. They are forced to by shifts in culture and world events. When an eye for an eye is deemed necessary you use it to justify everything from self defense to warfare. When turning the other cheek is the wise move, you talk about gods peace and love thine enemy.