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Can a literal Genesis creation story really hold up?
- Thread starter CG Didymus
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outhouse
Atheistically
It is not twofold
What we see is ancient mythology in a culture that had no clue how the world formed and used previous mythology that mirrored their new culture and evolved with it as it changed.
People from 2500 years ago had no clue how the world formed and how peopl evolved and its evident by the many contradictions in the mythology.
YOU CANNOT nor have you supplied ANYTHING towards promoting a literal interpretation as being credible or actually holding up in reality.
I'll take that as well for both religion and for science.
The difference between the two is evidence.
Neither can produce evidence to its beginning.
The sciences can only suspect, theorize about the beginnings verses religion giving a clue to its beginnings via belief through faith in a creator God.
The beauty of the latter is the belief that God created all there is, thus making the sciences come alive with prospect, wonderment, amazement, entertainment and enjoyment.
Blessings, AJ
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
But that is not true. Cosmologists have a vast body of knowledge regarding the early universe, all of it drawn from the available evidence. Whilst it is true that science does not yet fully understand how the universe began, it is false to say that they have no evidence. They have a great deal of evidence, and have already determined how the origin of the universe unfolded all the way back to the first minute fraction of a millisecond.
Not having a complete knowledge of any given thing is not the same as having no evidence.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Evidence of it's beginning is what I was referring to. Science has a great deal of it.
outhouse
Atheistically
We have evidence that the universe expanded over 13 billion years ago.
That is something no mythology describes.
outhouse
Atheistically
If you cannot fit your scripture to this below as written, then maybe your not supposed to interpret it literally.
This is viewed a truth for most of the educated world, theist included, and contains substantiated facts to back their position.
You don't have to like the truth, or be part of the majority.
IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution
We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.
This is viewed a truth for most of the educated world, theist included, and contains substantiated facts to back their position.
You don't have to like the truth, or be part of the majority.
IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution
We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Why would I?/
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
But, actually, my issues with your theories lie elsewhere
You stand on evidence, right? Well......besides some, or at least and approximately, 11 to 15 billions years ago, but not exact.
So, both of us can stand on this one word....."In the beginning".
The difference? Faith.
You faith in the sciences only, me, faith in God making the sciences.
You, no hope after this life, me, hope after.
You, no relationships outside this world, me, a personal relationship with the creator within.
Simple requirement.....faith in God.
Blessings, AJ
FranklinMichaelV.3
Well-Known Member
Which creator God?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
FranklinMichaelV.3
Well-Known Member
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Then you don't know.
I don't have a religion....no practice at all.
(except do unto others as I would have it done unto myself)
outhouse
Atheistically
EXACTLY
You have a belief with absolutely no evidence to support your position.
You have nothing at all that can place any deity as having anything to do with the universe and peoples origins other then PERSONAL belief.
Which is fine.
But its not OK to try and tell others that is how it happened when you don't really know.