Can any here offer a solution to the middle east conflicts between Israel and Hamas/Hezbollah?

[icehorse]

A few of my past proposals (not listed in any order).....
- Loosen gun control in Israel so the populace can defend itself.
This would make them less vulnerable to Hamas style attacks.
- Prosecute Israeli soldiers & settlers who assault, kill, & rob Palestinians.
- A Truth & Reconciliation process for Palestinian grievances.
- End group punishment of Palestinians.
- End apartheid in Israel.
- End Palestinian imprisonment without trials in Israel.
- End Israeli torture of Palestinians.
- End the economic oppression of Palestinians by Israel.
- Israelis should begin to value lives of non-Jews as much as Jews.
- USA should stop being Israel's unquestioning obedient servant.
The massive economic & military aid propping up of Israel provides
power to induce Israel to behave more humanely & rationally.
- USA should end the practice of maintaining Iran as an enemy.
This would enable lessening hostilities in the region.

Because presumably even if some of these things occasionally happen, they happen in a vacuum in which Islamists and terrorists are NOT to be held accountable for their actions.

ffs

 

[Revoltingest]

The Arms industry and the military have complete control of American politicians.

Conspiracy theory, eh.
When you worked in the arms industry, did you ever see evidence of this?

 

[Revoltingest]

Because presumably even if some of these things occasionally happen, they happen in a vacuum in which Islamists and terrorists are NOT to be held accountable for their actions.

Your posts shown fear & hatred of Muslims.
And vengeance against them.
I prefer solutions.

 

[muhammad_isa]

There is unlikely to be any change in American attitudes regarding Israel or the middle east.

Unfortunately, I think you are right.
..and the consequence of that is devastating for all of us.

Iran will not back down .. if they are hit, they will respond.
..and right now, the BRICS conference is going on, where Russia, China, Iran etc. are present.

 

[icehorse]

Your posts shown fear & hatred of Muslims.
And vengeance against them.
I prefer solutions.

Your posts show weak reading and comprehension skills

 

[Jimmy]

Leaders on both sides need to be replaced. Leaders that respect each other and their people. Leaders that will sit down with one another and work towards a brighter future. A future where Jews and Palestinians can co exist in harmony. It all starts with the leaders. If the leaders are there then the people can follow and if the people are there, then changes can take place. May the lord make changes.

 

[Revoltingest]

Your posts show weak reading and comprehension skills

You're in no position to judge such things.

 

[oldbadger]

A few of my past proposals (not listed in any order).....
- Loosen gun control in Israel so the populace can defend itself.
This would make them less vulnerable to Hamas style attacks.
- Prosecute Israeli soldiers & settlers who assault, kill, & rob Palestinians.
- A Truth & Reconciliation process for Palestinian grievances.
- End group punishment of Palestinians.
- End apartheid in Israel.
- End Palestinian imprisonment without trials in Israel.
- End Israeli torture of Palestinians.
- End the economic oppression of Palestinians by Israel.
- Israelis should begin to value lives of non-Jews as much as Jews.
- USA should stop being Israel's unquestioning obedient servant.
The massive economic & military aid propping up of Israel provides
power to induce Israel to behave more humanely & rationally.
- USA should end the practice of maintaining Iran as an enemy.
This would enable lessening hostilities in the region.

Thank you for that list, I hope it might encourage responses and ideas.

Me? I still haven't got a clue. The hatred is so strong that I expect this to all go on for a very very long time. I still don't know how much the Palestinians really want peace and happy coexistence, or the Israelis either. Give either an upper hand and.....?

 

[RestlessSoul]

And which one started it?

Is the Middle East a school playground?

What matters is, how does it end. If the terrorists on both sides have their way, it’ll end when everyone is dead.

For the record, I consider the IDF, directed by Netanyahu and his far right coalition, to be a terrorist organisation at this point, every bit as much as Hamas and Hezbollah. May they all rot in hell.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Conspiracy theory, eh.
When you worked in the arms industry, did you ever see evidence of this?

Your country’s economy was put on a war footing in 1941, and has remained so ever since. You don’t need to work in the arms industry to see that much.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Leaders on both sides need to be replaced. Leaders that respect each other and their people. Leaders that will sit down with one another and work towards a brighter future. A future where Jews and Palestinians can co exist in harmony. It all starts with the leaders. If the leaders are there then the people can follow and if the people are there, then changes can take place. May the lord make changes.

No. It all starts with damaged people.
People who have been brought up in a state of constant war and hate and fear, it continues generation by generation.
Breaking that cycle takes courage, forgiveness, and a great deal of strength and leadership.
There is no evidence that anyone is big enough to take that task on.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Conspiracy theory, eh.
When you worked in the arms industry, did you ever see evidence of this?

Look at the war budget, and the military statistics. It is clearly about money and power.
Far more is spent on war infrastructure, manpower, weapons, bases and the arms supply, than the total of all other countries combined.

If you want answers, as always, follow the money. And the lobbyists..
No need for conspiracy theories.

 

[metis]

May they all rot in hell.

So, now you are judge, jury, and executioner.

 

[metis]

What matters is, how does it end.

As scientists, we operate out of "cause & effect", not just "how does it end". We know how it started and why, so there is no mystery there.

 

[Revoltingest]

Your country’s economy was put on a war footing in 1941, and has remained so ever since. You don’t need to work in the arms industry to see that much.

Belief that the arms industry runs government
has as much evidence as Jesus Christ being my
lord & savior.

 

[Revoltingest]

Look at the war budget, and the military statistics. It is clearly about money and power.

We both look at the same info.
Where you see a conspiracy, I see voters
rewarding politicians for pursuing war.

No need for conspiracy theories.

And yet, you proffer one.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Belief that the arms industry runs government
has as much evidence as Jesus Christ being my
lord & savior.

Matthew 13: 15-16

 

[Revoltingest]

Matthew 13: 15-16

Is that like Austin 3:16?

 

[RestlessSoul]

Is that like Austin 3:16?

No idea, I don’t follow wrestling. I only googled it because I though the Austin 3 might have been a forerunner to the Austin 7.

 

[Revoltingest]

No idea, I don’t follow wrestling. I only googled it because I though the Austin 3 might have been a forerunner to the Austin 7.

Biblical verses aren't evidence of anything.