RestlessSoul
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Biblical verses aren't evidence of anything.
Who said they were?
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Biblical verses aren't evidence of anything.
That guy over there.Who said they were?
Your view says rather a lot about American voters and their culture.We both look at the same info.
Where you see a conspiracy, I see voters
rewarding politicians for pursuing war.
And yet, you proffer one.
True dat.Your view says rather a lot about American voters and their culture.
Which is not at all flattering.
Do you mean everyone converts to Christianity? I suppose that if such a miraculous event took place, then the conflict would end.Come to Christ moment?
Do you want to tell Islam to 'come to Christ'?
Whenever I hear talk of Christ I think of the Church dogma that spun 'Christ' out of the living person of Jesus....two quite different beings altogether.
And would you tell all Israel to come to Christ?
I mean, if you're going to fail so badly then you might as well make a complete job of the fail, yes?
Gaza has never been Jewish. True? Didn't Philistines live there in earliest times?Do you mean everyone converts to Christianity? I suppose that if such a miraculous event took place, then the conflict would end.
Similarly, if everyone converted to Judaism or everyone converted to Islam.
It is primarily a religious war. The land belongs to the Jews according to their religion. For this reason, they can't form a one-state solution or a two-state solution.
Thus Israel is incapable of achieving peace with the Palestinians... ever.
- Two states would divide the land that is theirs by religious right.
- A one state solution would have more non-Jews than Jews within it's boundaries, leading to the state being democratically controlled by non-Jews instead of by Jews and suddenly Israel is no longer a Jewish state.
So... what solutions does Israel offer?
Are there any other options that preserve the integrity of the Jewish homeland according to the religious faith that they have held for over 2000 years?
- They can either allow large numbers of non-Jews to live there under the control of a Jewish theocracy (the Jewish dominated democratically controlled state of Israel).
- Or they ethnically cleanse the land of large numbers of non-Jews.
This is the sentiment within Israel: if Gaza was Jewish, then Oct 7 would not have happened.
For a majority of known history the Palestine/Israel lands have been ruled by non Jews.Do you mean everyone converts to Christianity? I suppose that if such a miraculous event took place, then the conflict would end.
Similarly, if everyone converted to Judaism or everyone converted to Islam.
It is primarily a religious war. The land belongs to the Jews according to their religion. For this reason, they can't form a one-state solution or a two-state solution.
Thus Israel is incapable of achieving peace with the Palestinians... ever.
- Two states would divide the land that is theirs by religious right.
- A one state solution would have more non-Jews than Jews within it's boundaries, leading to the state being democratically controlled by non-Jews instead of by Jews and suddenly Israel is no longer a Jewish state.
So... what solutions does Israel offer?
Are there any other options that preserve the integrity of the Jewish homeland according to the religious faith that they have held for over 2000 years?
- They can either allow large numbers of non-Jews to live there under the control of a Jewish theocracy (the Jewish dominated democratically controlled state of Israel).
- Or they ethnically cleanse the land of large numbers of non-Jews.
This is the sentiment within Israel: if Gaza was Jewish, then Oct 7 would not have happened.
For a majority of known history the Palestine/Israel lands have been ruled by non Jews
When ever they have ruled some of the land they have been at almost constant war with their neighbours.
The Turks,, Romans, and Babylonians ruled the land for far longer than the Jews ever have.For a majority of known history Israel has also been ruled by non Palestinians.
Indeed, since 1947, their neighbors have continually attacked them. Why? Well it could be that the Quran promises Muslims that they are the winners, and so it rubs them the wrong way if Jews succeed. I don't think most Muslims think this way, but dollars to donuts Islamic terrorists and Islamists sure do.
stealing?The Turks,, Romans, and Babylonians ruled the land for far longer than the Jews ever have.
This time around they have only managed some 70 years. And then by slowly stealing land from others. History would suggest that they will loose it all again.
Islam and Judaism. 99/100 similar in teaching faith.Pointing me towards Islam as a redirection cannot help you.
Gotta love the Dawah always making stuff up about things they know nothing about.Islam and Judaism. 99/100 similar in teaching faith.
Nah not going back to being Dhimmis Habibi.I wish all pro Israel wake up, because racist is dangerous to all humanity same as extremism in religious beliefs.
Nothing about what's in your mind.Gotta love the Dawah always making stuff up about things they know nothing about.
Try write it in Arabic, don't get your point.Nah not going back to being Dhimmis Habibi.
Israel killed children among Hamas, or Hamas among children"civilians"?You'll have to persecute yourselves for once.
You know nothing about Judaism.Nothing about what's in your mind.
Why would I know Arabic?Try write it in Arabic, don't get your point.
This is the part where I refer to dead Israelis and you have to suppress your giddiness about it.Israel killed children among Hamas, or Hamas among children"civilians"?
Yes only Jews know judaism.You know nothing about Judaism.
Don't pretend.
I just see you pretend known. ArabicWhy would I know Arabic?
I never be happy that kids killed by anyone.Neither Hamas don't do that.This is the part where I refer to dead Israelis and you have to suppress your giddiness about it.
Why waste time?
Algeria free jews, because they came with colonial France and go with France, their business finish.Algeria is Jewfree, you did it habibi.
This strays from the topic i.e. a solution to middle east conflictThis is the part where I refer to dead Israelis..
And what if Israel put down it's defences, and put away it's missile protection?Islam and Judaism. 99/100 similar in teaching faith.
I wish he wake up from his islamophia.
I wish all pro Israel wake up, because racist is dangerous to all humanity same as extremism in religious beliefs.
There is easy option, justice peace deal and remove this racist apartheid regime, so Palestinians had their rights.And what if Israel put down it's defences, and put away it's missile protection?
Are you telling me that Islam would wake up from it's Anti-Semitism? I wonder how long it would be before it would be over-run?
The solution is the two-state solution based roughly on the Oslo accords. The only way it will get implemented is when the Christ returns and imposes it on Israel (the Palestinians also need persuading, but not as much).Nearly everybody here hopes that all innocent civilians in Israel, Lebanon and Gaza may be supported, protected, in safety, rehomed and given food, water and medical supplies.
Each side hates the other fiercely.
So can anybody here offer any suggestions for ending these dreadful conflicts?
....because I have not got a clue.
I don't think that you care too much for Israel or Jewish Israelis, Godobeyer.There is easy option, justice peace deal and remove this racist apartheid regime, so Palestinians had their rights.
Islam don't have any problem with Jews, Muslims whom protection Jews during WW2 from racist christians Nazi.
Defending Israel crimes by anti semitic card, i don't swallow anymore. Stick.
I do believe Israel ideology of the chosen people, and others are the chosen human animals. Is dangerous to all humanity not just Palestinians or Lebanon or Irani.
Jews and Palestinians had right to live in peace, but with, no racist, real justice peace, not with current criminal israeli government, unfortunately USA government don't help because it's biased to zionists.