Can gays or bisexuals be Christian?

[Cary Cook]

Then you have nothing to worry about, so long as you marry the opposite sex and don't commit adultery, or fornication or steal, murder, etc. Even if you were homosexual and did that, or abstained from homosexual sex. Or anal and oral sex with even the same sex marriage partner. These are unnatural uses of the creator's gift of reproduction. (Romans 1:18-27 1 Corinthians 5:1)

Behold the absurdity of thinking the Bible is the word of God.

 

[Altfish]

What is Not acceptable in Scripture is fornication ( porneia ).
So, anyone who is single should Not fornicate.
Porneia includes more than natural sex between male and female, but wrong to have sex with an animal, etc.
I find the ' past tense ' is used at 1 Corinthians 6:11 A.
So, anyone who is single can choose to be single as Jesus was.
Since we are nearing the soon coming time of Revelation 22:2 when there will be ' healing ' for earth's nations, then righteous mankind will gain human perfection as originally was in Eden. This is why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Revelation 22:20 for Jesus to come ! Come and bring ' healing ' to earth's nations.
In the mean time, we can all follow Jesus' teaching of what is morally acceptable to practice.

Why does god get so wound up about what 2 (or more come to that!) consenting adults do, usually in the bedroom? Hasn't he got more important things to worry about?

 

[Regiomontanus]

Gay Christian 101 - Affirming God's glorious gospel good news for all LGBTs. Click the preceeding link for proof of the affirmative answer I support. I am a Christian, and I love Yeshua so much. If I could take a special pill to not be bisexual, I would. Why would I choose to be demonized by the three Abrahamic faiths.

I find hard to believe that the creator of the universe would be concerned about who you are in a loving relationship with. Love is the key.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, because the sex is still unnatural. It's like, if I invented the baseball bat and people started using it for sexual penetration or violence it would be an unnatural use that repulsed me. God made sex for reproduction. He made it pleasurable, but intended it to be used in a specific way.

Nope, not unnatural, that is only your personal bias.

What else do you have?

 

[Subduction Zone]

That's your opinion. But not really relevant. If I told you that Professor Dumbledore was a white wizard who was known in Middle Earth who sometimes rode a horse named Shadowfax and Gandalf was the headmaster of Hogwarts I would be wrong. All you would have to do is point me to J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord Of The Rings and J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series. Those are fiction. The Law Of Moses and the Apostle Paul, even if they didn't exist, made their position clear on the subject of unnatural sex. You can't change it because it seems to have gotten more acceptable, besides, even in their own time those things were more acceptable than today.

Please, you were pettily *****ing about my use of the phrase Old Testament. I only did the same in return. And no, homosexuality is not unnatural. It can be found in many other animals besides man.

According to whom? That is the question. You can't reject those standards just because you reject the existence of the people who allegedly presented them. And you certainly can't reject those standards while embracing them or pick and choose which ones you care to uphold. You yourself rightly pointed that out when you said "But if you are going to follow that one you would need to follow all of the other silly OT laws to not be a hypocrite."

According to you. I used the standards you paid out. I suppose if I wrote biased and hurtful nonsense I would want to forget what I wrote too. But since you did bring up the OT laws, when was the last time you stoned an unwed mother? I am sure that you don't have a leather belt holding up your pants. And camarones con tocino is something you have never tasted.

 

[Rival]

So I have to be alone and miserable?

Just going to point out that, it could be much worse. You'll do what you'll do, and then make your peace with HaShem. No-one's perfect.

 

[Jumi]

You can, but many literalist Christians will not accept you or have understanding that you have no choice in the matter. They will call it a lifestyle, or otherwise not know about it.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Gay Christian 101 - Affirming God's glorious gospel good news for all LGBTs. Click the preceeding link for proof of the affirmative answer I support. I am a Christian, and I love Yeshua so much. If I could take a special pill to not be bisexual, I would. Why would I choose to be demonized by the three Abrahamic faiths.

Yes. The bible doesnt differientiate between sexual orientations. Straight people had same-sex intercourse as did gay people in the bible. Their actions dont deterime who they are attracted to.

 

[nPeace]

Gay Christian 101 - Affirming God's glorious gospel good news for all LGBTs. Click the preceeding link for proof of the affirmative answer I support. I am a Christian, and I love Yeshua so much. If I could take a special pill to not be bisexual, I would. Why would I choose to be demonized by the three Abrahamic faiths.

1 Corinthians 6 - GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
9 Don’t you know that wicked people won’t inherit God’s kingdom? Stop deceiving yourselves! People who continue to commit sexual sins, who worship false gods, those who commit adultery, homosexuals, 10 or thieves, those who are greedy or drunk, who use abusive language, or who rob people will not inherit God’s kingdom. 11 That’s what some of you were! But you have been washed and made holy, and you have received God’s approval in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

Stay Away from Sexual Sins
12 Someone may say, “I’m allowed to do anything,” but not everything is helpful. I’m allowed to do anything, but I won’t allow anything to gain control over my life. 13 Food is for the stomach, and the stomach is for food, but God will put an end to both of them. However, the body is not for sexual sin but for the Lord, and the Lord is for the body. 14 God brought the Lord back to life, and by his power God will also bring us back to life.

15 Don’t you realize that your bodies are parts of Christ’s body? Should I take the parts of Christ’s body and make them parts of a prostitute’s body? That’s unthinkable! 16 Don’t you realize that the person who unites himself with a prostitute becomes one body with her? God says, “The two will be one.” 17 However, the person who unites himself with the Lord becomes one spirit with him.

18 Stay away from sexual sins. Other sins that people commit don’t affect their bodies the same way sexual sins do. People who sin sexually sin against their own bodies. 19 Don’t you know that your body is a temple that belongs to the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit, whom you received from God, lives in you. You don’t belong to yourselves. 20 You were bought for a price. So bring glory to God in the way you use your body.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Its actually a very simple miscommunication.

Homosexuality is medically defined as a sexual orientation. The person a homosexual sleeps with same or opposite gender does change who he is physically, mentally, and spiritually attracted to.

Homosexuality is scripture is defined by same-sex actions. Unlike the medical definition, it concerns itself with the sex of a person not the heart.

There are no referrences to LGBTQ and Straight in the bible. Its not important ones identity sex or gender but ones actions in relation to their belief in god.

Both sides are talking pass each other. Either the biblical translation is bias or believers may not know the difference between ones attraction and action.

 

[Earthling]

Please, you were pettily *****ing about my use of the phrase Old Testament. I only did the same in return. And no, homosexuality is not unnatural. It can be found in many other animals besides man.

It doesn't matter that it can be found in many other animals, according to the Bible, the creator says it's unnatural. If you want to please the creator God of the Bible then you do what he says and abstain from it. Even if it's popular, even if animals do it.

According to you. I used the standards you paid out. I suppose if I wrote biased and hurtful nonsense I would want to forget what I wrote too. But since you did bring up the OT laws, when was the last time you stoned an unwed mother? I am sure that you don't have a leather belt holding up your pants. And camarones con tocino is something you have never tasted.

I'm a homosexual man. How do you figure what I'm writing is biased and hurtful. The so called OT laws applied to the ancient Israelites up to the Pentecost 33 C.E. then they were done away with. A very few things, like homosexuality, adultery, murder, and the eating of blood was forbidden by the Christian congregation. No longer punishable by death, but rather removal from the congregation.

 

[Earthling]

Behold the absurdity of thinking the Bible is the word of God.

What are the options? Making it up as you go?

 

[Earthling]

Yes. The bible doesnt differientiate between sexual orientations. Straight people had same-sex intercourse as did gay people in the bible. Their actions dont deterime who they are attracted to.

It doesn't matter who they are attracted to, the Bible condemns homosexuality.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It doesn't matter that it can be found in many other animals, according to the Bible, the creator says it's unnatural. If you want to please the creator God of the Bible then you do what he says and abstain from it. Even if it's popular, even if animals do it.

You keep making this error. The writers of the Bible said it was bad not God. You need more than a book of myths to claim it is unnatural. Your version of God may not be happy with it, but that does not mean that all interpret the Bible in the same way that you do.

I'm a homosexual man. How do you figure what I'm writing is biased and hurtful. The so called OT laws applied to the ancient Israelites up to the Pentecost 33 C.E. then they were done away with. A very few things, like homosexuality, adultery, murder, and the eating of blood was forbidden by the Christian congregation. No longer punishable by death, but rather removal from the congregation.

Yes, you have made that claim before , and it may go a long way to explain your rather strange beliefs. And I do believe that you would be doing some special pleading. By the same nature the OT laws about sex only apply to the ancient Hebrews. I am glad that we got that straightened out.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What are the options? Making it up as you go?

That is much better than following a morally repugnant "God".

 

[Unveiled Artist]

It doesn't matter who they are attracted to, the Bible condemns homosexuality.

Thank you for summing my point in one sentence. You are talking about something totally different than the people you disagree with.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

It doesn't matter that it can be found in many other animals, according to the Bible, the creator says it's unnatural. If you want to please the creator God of the Bible then you do what he says and abstain from it. Even if it's popular, even if animals do it.



I'm a homosexual man. How do you figure what I'm writing is biased and hurtful. The so called OT laws applied to the ancient Israelites up to the Pentecost 33 C.E. then they were done away with. A very few things, like homosexuality, adultery, murder, and the eating of blood was forbidden by the Christian congregation. No longer punishable by death, but rather removal from the congregation.

Are you a sinner because you are homosexual?

 

[Earthling]

Are you a sinner because you are homosexual?

No. I'm a sinner because I inherited sin from Adam.

 

[Earthling]

Thank you for summing my point in one sentence. You are talking about something totally different than the people you disagree with.

Well, how do you come to that conclusion?

 

[Earthling]

That is much better than following a morally repugnant "God".

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, so long as you are not putting words in the mouth of the God in question.