Spirit of Light
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ExactlyThat's ok, because we know that God exists without proof.
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Can you give me a solid proof
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Trailblazer
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What definition of evidence do you go by?
The following definitions are ones I go by:
Evidence: anything that helps to prove that something is or is not true: EVIDENCE | definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary
Evidence: the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid: https://www.google.com/search
Evidence is anything that you see, experience, read, or are told that causes you to believe that something is true or has really happened.
Objective evidence definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary
There is no objectively verifiable evidence that God exists.
What is objectively verifiable evidence?
Objective evidence means evidence that is verifiable by means other that a person's own statements. Sample 1. Sample 2. Objective evidence means information that can be proved to be true, based on facts obtained through observation, measurement, testing or any other means; Sample 1.
Objective evidence Definition | Law Insider
If something is objective, it has correspondence with reality. Objective truth is something that is true for everyone, whether they agree with it or not. At one time this was simply called “truth.”
What is objective truth? | GotQuestions.org
syo
Well-Known Member
I am religious. I am interested in knowing their proof.
That goes both ways, there's evidence that no gods exist but you don't like that.
Heyo
Veteran Member
Ever heard of the argument of the stone?
Can god create a stone that is so heavy that it itself can't lift it?
If it can't create such a stone it isn't omnipotent because it can't create the stone.
If it can create such a stone it isn't omnipotent because there is then a stone it can not lift.
Ergo, any entity with omnipotence is impossible.
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Trailblazer
Veteran Member
What is the evidence that no gods exist?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Yes, I have heard it many times but I think it is silly.
Nobody can prove that God is omnipotent. It is just a belief.
Heyo
Veteran Member
Yep, that is exactly how theists try to salvage their god from being impossible, by redefining words. And when they have defined black as white and nobody can distinguish them any more they get run over on a zebra crossing.But my personal definition of a "pink" object includes any object that does not absorb the colour pink and does not reflect any non-pink colour. By that definition, something can be invisible and pink at the same time.
I've given you some in the past which you dismiss as "free will" or "nobody can understand the ways of God". Would it really help to rehash them again?
Heyo
Veteran Member
I agree. Miracles go against science but not necessarily against logic (but often they do).
But that is not what we are talking about. This is about philosophical proofs. They require either unity for a positive or a contradiction for a negative proof. And many god concepts are contradictory.
Heyo
Veteran Member
I agree, but that wasn't the question. I neither know nor assume anything about god(s). I only say that if a god is said to be omnipotent then that god doesn't exist.Yes, I have heard it many times but I think it is silly.
Nobody can prove that God is omnipotent. It is just a belief.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It certainly is proof. Incredibly strong proof at that.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I can prove that God dosent exist because nobody can produce any type of God whatsoever aside from the one living in their imagination.
The proof is already well established long before it begins.
Your in denial because conceptual ideas alone were never even substantial to begin with, and claiming otherwise is pretty pathetic as base for establishing a fact.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, if this is related to what you believe God should be doing, it won't help to rehash them again.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I do not think you can know at any more than I can know that God is omnipotent.
It is all based upon 'what you would expect to see' if God was omnipotent.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
What people can prove about God is not proof in any manner shape or form.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Produce a God? Do you think God is a material being who can be located with a GPS tracker?
Any such being would not be God at all.
That's the problem. I don't believe God should or could be doing anything. I believe if there were a God some things would happen (or wouldn't happen), that they don't (or do) is evidence that there is no God.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
You just contradicted yourself.
If you don't believe God should or could be doing anything, then how can you believe that if there were a God some things would happen (or wouldn't happen) and that the fact that these things are or are not happening is evidence that there is no God?