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Can you give me an observable evidence that Evolution is true?

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
I'm not going to the trouble of digging up sources as this topic isn't that important to
me. I believe in creation, perhaps intelligent design and the process of evolution.
Evolution is an established science is it not?
I have 2 degrees in sciences and understand the difference between natural adaptation and evolution. My field isn't biology or anthropology but I understand the desciplines well enough on lay terms.
I have no problem reconciling science and god.
I would think god is a master scientist of sorts.
I wish my education was in theology. I started college when I was 49 years old and there simply wasn't time or finances to get a 3rd degree.
Well, maybe I could go after a 3rd if I'd live long enough.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Ironically, I am a a biology researcher.

In regards to the evidence, I want it based on the scientific method.

The scientific method: "based on a collection of data through observation and experimentation"

A biology researcher, perhaps.

A poorly trained one. It's showing.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
Ironically, I am a a biology researcher.

In regards to the evidence, I want it based on the scientific method.

The scientific method: "based on a collection of data through observation and experimentation"
Is to much to ask what sort of a biology researcher?
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
I'm not going to the trouble of digging up sources as this topic isn't that important to
me. I believe in creation, perhaps intelligent design and the process of evolution.
Evolution is an established science is it not?
I have 2 degrees in sciences and understand the difference between natural adaptation and evolution. My field isn't biology or anthropology but I understand the desciplines well enough on lay terms.
I have no problem reconciling science and god.
I would think god is a master scientist of sorts.
I wish my education was in theology. I started college when I was 49 years old and there simply wasn't time or finances to get a 3rd degree.
Well, maybe I could go after a 3rd if I'd live long enough.
What fields of science? What level of degrees?
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
From K.S.U. Ohio mfg engineering, from Geneva Pa. Human resources, both B.S.
Not even close to more disciplined sciences.
H.R. degree required more scientific research & math than most would think.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
From K.S.U. Ohio mfg engineering, from Geneva Pa. Human resources, both B.S.
Not even close to more disciplined sciences.
H.R. degree required more scientific research & math than most would think.
Neither of which give you any authority to hold forth on matters pertaining to biology, chemistry, geology or physics. Engineering is not science, neither is HR. I suspect that what you think of as, "more scientific research & math," is just cognitive bias, perhaps Dunning–Kruger effect, something I've seen in lots of engineers as they try to approach scientific questions. Hell, at least I know that I should not try to design a bridge even though I understand the first principles (I did go to an engineering high school, Brooklyn Tech).
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
Evolution and Athiesm are synonymous and one and the same. Athiesm uses Evolution as an ardent sword to defend their faith.

Hmmm....That's not true. You can be a theist, and also believe evolution to be true. Atheists don't use evolution to defend atheism. Evolution, while 'just' a theory, has substantial evidence to back it up...it doesn't need to be taken on faith.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Evolution, while 'just' a theory

I agree whole hearted with your post, I just wanted to expand on this out of boredom.


It is more then a theory, being a scientific theory based on many different facts that have been observed. which has also been peer reviewed and at any time anyone can present evidence that could overturn the whole hypothesis, if it existed. It does not.

Evolution is both fact and scientific theory, which is different then a common theory many think is similar to a guess.


I think you made great points ;)
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
Can you give me an observable evidence of a change of kinds. Something that I don't have to receive by faith.

"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence" Richard Dawkins.


What biology researcher uses the term "kinds" and is that clueless about evolution?
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
There are BILLIONS of facts that support the scientific theory of evolution.

National Academy of Science

"Is Evolution a Theory or a Fact?
It is both."

Evolution Resources from the National Academies
Worth posting:

Is Evolution a Theory or a Fact?

It is both. But that answer requires looking more deeply at the meanings of the words "theory" and "fact."

In everyday usage, "theory" often refers to a hunch or a speculation. When people say, "I have a theory about why that happened," they are often drawing a conclusion based on fragmentary or inconclusive evidence.

The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence.

Many scientific theories are so well-established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially. For example, no new evidence will demonstrate that the Earth does not orbit around the sun (heliocentric theory), or that living things are not made of cells (cell theory), that matter is not composed of atoms, or that the surface of the Earth is not divided into solid plates that have moved over geological timescales (the theory of plate tectonics). Like these other foundational scientific theories, the theory of evolution is supported by so many observations and confirming experiments that scientists are confident that the basic components of the theory will not be overturned by new evidence. However, like all scientific theories, the theory of evolution is subject to continuing refinement as new areas of science emerge or as new technologies enable observations and experiments that were not possible previously.

One of the most useful properties of scientific theories is that they can be used to make predictions about natural events or phenomena that have not yet been observed. For example, the theory of gravitation predicted the behavior of objects on the moon and other planets long before the activities of spacecraft and astronauts confirmed them. The evolutionary biologists who discovered Tiktaalik predicted that they would find fossils intermediate between fish and limbed terrestrial animals in sediments that were about 375 million years old. Their discovery confirmed the prediction made on the basis of evolutionary theory. In turn, confirmation of a prediction increases confidence in that theory.

In science, a "fact" typically refers to an observation, measurement, or other form of evidence that can be expected to occur the same way under similar circumstances. However, scientists also use the term "fact" to refer to a scientific explanation that has been tested and confirmed so many times that there is no longer a compelling reason to keep testing it or looking for additional examples. In that respect, the past and continuing occurrence of evolution is a scientific fact. Because the evidence supporting it is so strong, scientists no longer question whether biological evolution has occurred and is continuing to occur. Instead, they investigate the mechanisms of evolution, how rapidly evolution can take place, and related questions.

From Science, Evolution, and Creationism, National Academy of Sciences and Institute of Medicine. © 2008 National Academy of Sciences
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
I doubt "proforlife" is actually interested, but

The Smithsonian's Human Origins Program

Human Evolution by The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program

EVERYTHING in our universe has evolved! We are made from star dust.
I personally consider the evidences found on Mars to be more than conclusive as to whether or not that planet actually once harbored life, but once the "smoking gun" is found all of these weirdos who oppose knowledge will have a lot of rationalizing and mental hoola-hooping to do.

I can't wait for February when Dawn shows us how water isn't even a rare thing in the Universe.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
One of the first pieces of evidence for natural selection was "domestic selection"; that is when Farmers breed livestock for particular Characteristics (such as mass/meat content). A fair number of poultry breeds are product of domestic selection for specializing in Meat or Egg laying. I believe Darwin did it with Pigeons.
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
I personally consider the evidences found on Mars to be more than conclusive as to whether or not that planet actually once harbored life, but once the "smoking gun" is found all of these weirdos who oppose knowledge will have a lot of rationalizing and mental hoola-hooping to do.

I can't wait for February when Dawn shows us how water isn't even a rare thing in the Universe.

There is a lot of water in the universe.
 
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