That's absolutely false.
If there were regulation and rule of law, those capitalists who are responsible for making banks go bankrupt would be behind bars, right now.
The Governments are just Judases who are content with thirty pieces of silver.
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Capitalism: why eternal growth is self-destructive
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If there were regulation and rule of law, those capitalists who are responsible for making banks go bankrupt would be behind bars, right now.
The Governments are just Judases who are content with thirty pieces of silver.
I am speaking of fit people in their 20s. They take the car.
I would probably be inclined to walk if it was a short distance. 500m-700m is less than a half mile. It takes me about 10 minutes to walk half a mile, or I could go by car and get there in a couple of minutes. If I'm going to buy something, like groceries, then I'd rather use the car than walking a half mile and carrying a whole bunch of groceries home.
Some of the problem in the U.S. is that many of our cities didn't start to grow until the age of the automobile, particularly here in the western U.S. Los Angeles is a perfect example. Everything is so spread out. Even though there is a public transit system, it's hardly adequate to serve the needs of the entire area. One is somewhat hobbled in the L.A. area without a car. Parking is another problem.
In fact, I was just reading someone's top ten list of the ugliest cities in America, and Los Angeles was close to the top. It's an aging city past its prime. I guess it's kind of symbolic of capitalism. L.A. was once the shining jewel of America, the center of show business and an idyllic climate with sandy beaches and beautiful people. All the glamor, glitz, and luxury which come from living in an advanced capitalist society. But just as with capitalism, its better days are in the past.
Let's take the city of Rome as example.
In the historical center there are zero parking lots. Let's say you need to go to the theaters or to the restaurant, in the city center.
You live in the eastern suburbs. You take the subway and you're there in less than ten minutes.
You take the car and between traffic lights, traffic jams , you will be there after a hour. Missing your show.
Yet...some Romans don't think the subway is cool or VIP...so they will just get the car.
That's how tragic the situation is.
I can't even imagine how large LA is.
As I was saying, can you really blame the Amish communities for living far away from all that?
I can see where another valid concern would be safety. Some people are wary of riding on public transport due to reasons of personal safety.
Or walking down the street. I just saw a recent story about actor Steve Buscemi just walking down the street in NYC and some random stranger just punched him in the face for no apparent reason. Who does something like that? Some neighborhoods are not safe to walk through, so I can see where some might prefer to use their car to try to avoid such encounters.
Well, including the entire metro area, it's pretty big. Although, in a way, it's a lot like a bunch of small cities all connected together into one giant megalopolis. Each area seems to have its own style or flavor to it.
I have a co-worker who used to live in the Amish community, but she uses technology now and seems to be okay with city life. I respect whatever choices people might make. Much of my extended family were farmers. They weren't Amish, but they still largely preferred a rural lifestyle away from large cities.
Others have also wanted to get away from the cities, which is a part of the American experience. Cities became too crowded, with old tenements and slums, and as people's income grew, they started moving out of the cities and into nice suburban homes. It just expands further and further and spreads out.
That's because it defeats your unsupported
claim that socialism offers better results
than capitalism. This is why you must
ignore empirical evidence.
PureX
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I loved living in the city until I got older. I decided to leave when I couldn't outrun or outfight the criminals anymore. They never get older and every year it seemed there was more of them, and then they all wanted to carry guns. I cannot even imagine living in the city, now. That was in a whole other lifetime ago.
That's what you say. I disagree.
PureX
Veteran Member
He defines 'socialism' as "everything bad" and 'capitaism' as "everything good". So no matter what you say, or how you say it, capitalism always comes up smelling like roses compared to the pile of crap he defines as 'socialism'.
Capitalism is good, if regulated.
Socialism is good, if there's no corruption.
Things are good: it's people who turn them into bad things.
I guess this concept is very simple to understand. Even the Gospels say that Capitalism is not bad.
But it also says that if Capitalists misbehave, they will be punished by God.
PureX
Veteran Member
It's not "good" if we have to regulate it to mitigate the damage it does if it's not regulated. It's like saying drug addiction is good so long as we don't let the addict have drugs whenever he wants them. Although that is exactly what the addict wants and what he will be constantly trying to make happen.
Capitalism is an economic system based on greed. It is designed to promote greed, to enable greed, and to reward greed. And there is no "good" form of greed. Greed is, by definition, "bad" because it seeks more than it deserves at the expense of everyone else involved.
The gospels say absolutely nothing about 'capitalism' being good, or bad.
And yet they are rarely punished by God or anyone else. In the capitalist system, in fact, they are encouraged, catered to, and rewarded.
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I guess we’ll agree to disagree. I see people right now who came from poor families experiencing wealth through capitalism.
Regulation exists.
Corruption exists.
Gospels = Fairy tales
I don't fear punishment by fictitious characters.
Apparently, neither do socialists, judging by their behavior.
If regulation existed...some greedy bankers and speculators would be in jail.
As those who were jailed in Iceland.
And yet they roll red carpets at them.
But not always.
I was speaking of other people.
Not you.
Tail of straw, much?
The Communion with God takes place when someone (like me) desires that all the people of the world are fine, and the wealth and resources of the planet are distributed.
The eclypse of God takes place when greed prevails and one person wants to own all the wealth of the world.
Tsk, tsk.
Such inadequate reasoning.
For instance...Rothschild died recently. Jacob Rothschild, IV barone Rothschild - Wikipedia
God tried him in His Godly Tribunal.
Justice is eternal
I prefer to craft economic & justice systemsFor instance...Rothschild died recently. Jacob Rothschild, IV barone Rothschild - Wikipedia
God tried him in His Godly Tribunal.
Justice is eternal
without considering myths about a sky fairy
who gave us Hitler, Trump, Netanyahu, etc.
Unbridled anything in the hands of wicked people will garner wicked results. Do you really think unbridled socialism, communism, in the hands of wicked people will cause them to all of a sudden become moral and altruistic? No. That’s why we have laws; to prevent evil people from harming others.
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Are you really under the impression that Capitalists are the only ones responsible for banks going bankrupt last recession? There were a bunch of poor and middle income people responsible as well; should we arrest them too? Or only the people who broke the law.
A lot of fit people already walk or ride bikes. What are you saying; that they should not be allowed to drive cars?