Capitalists may have the same mentality as Nazis: that people must be enslaved

[wellwisher]

That's what transpires from Hannah Arendt's books : that the IG Farben demanded from the Nazis slave labor, and Jews were exploited so that the Capitalists that owned the IG Farben could obtain the profit maximization, and produce chemicals with basically zero costs of productions.

This is what Capitalism does to men: it transforms them into greedy people, who lose their humanhood, so I am entitled to call them greedy wolves.
Greedy, sadistic wolves disposed to enjoy seeing Jews dying while working in those camps.
They even built their factories around Auschwitz on purpose.
It's all in Hannah Arendt's book The banality of evil.

Thoughts?

You are talking about Big Government and not Capitalism. Capitalism pays you to work, but Government via tax and regulation cost you more than you benefit. I do not get my moneys worth from my taxes. This deficit adds up to slave labor. I did not ask the Democrats to double the price of gasoline. Whatever your tax rate and the inflation rate due to government is slave labor, since you work for nothing and you have no say. That is the nature of being a slave. All the debt the boneheads have created in Government, now enslave your under aged children, to the boneheads and parasites of the past. The free market offers a way to stay above water, when being drag under water by national debt created by the Government.

There are labor laws to protect us from shady businesses, but no laws to protect use from shady government, since they are the law. The COVID relief fund was ripped off $billions, especially by Democrat run states. Do think that will be paid back by the boneheads?

Consider the COVID shut down which messed up the free market economy, the effects of which still linger today as supply problems and inflation. Millions of children were cheated of an education based on heavy handed socialist government policies, all for no good reason other than welding power. Many became enslave by the stupid and corrupt people in power. Will there be justice or is Government exempt from justice like any Democrats slave owner from the past? I think citizen should be allowed sue elected official who enslave them. Hopefully when Trump wins his justice department is open to justice due, during the COVID slavery and internment. We can drain their accounts and give it to the children who were cheated and enslaved.

VP Candidate Walz was involved in half $ billion rip off the COVID fund. We can enslave him until the debt is paid. This not really slavey but rather should be seen as him taking an advance on his salary, and him have to work off his debt. There is a lot of debt to work off by a wide range of highest level Government employees; national debt.

Consider illegal immigration and the cost that have been imposed on local communities who did not ask for this. Congress never approved any funds. All that cost is slave labor since your taxes and loss of services has a cost, which means you work for free. People like Harris and Biden need to work off that debt. We can seize their assets as a warning to all future crooks.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm questioning the "freely" here. There is an information and power imbalance.

If dumb people make bad decisions,
that doesn't mean they aren't freely
made decisions.
Power is equal, ie, employer may hire or
refuse to, & employee may join or refuse.

Are you claiming that workers are inherently
dumb & weak? I never felt that way when
I was an employee. I had the liberty to leave
any time I wanted.

 

[Stevicus]

 

[Kfox]

We are not in the 19th century any more.
There are labor laws that try to mitigate this power imbalance. Sometimes there is perfect equality between employer and employee.

Don't know how things work in Italy, but in the USA, labor laws are only in place to ensure fair working conditions, the power imbalance between employee and owner, manager, lead, etc. is none of the Government's business.

 

[Estro Felino]

Don't know how things work in Italy, but in the USA, labor laws are only in place to ensure fair working conditions, the power imbalance between employee and owner, manager, lead, etc. is none of the Government's business.

The State is present everywhere in Italy.
Even in the contract between employer and employee.

 

[clara17]

You don't know much about laws, do you? There are laws and regulations on how to run a business, you could plaster Broadway with. Laws that say that corporations are people and have a right to "free speech" (and money is speech) - allowing them the unlimited possibility to bribe politicians (in the US).
Many laws that "regulate" corporations, are written by the corporations, and rubber-stamped by Congress.

Bribery isn't legal in all capitalistic democracies, but that only means that corporations have to be more creative elsewhere. Money is power, and the accumulated money of big corporations makes them more powerful than some governments. This power is the second major problem with capitalism.

You're assuming what I know and dont know? You complain about 'capitalism' which you can't define, and your best example of it is tons of misguided government regulations?

 

[Revoltingest]

You don't know much about laws, do you? There are laws and regulations on how to run a business, you could plaster Broadway with. Laws that say that corporations are people and have a right to "free speech" (and money is speech) - allowing them the unlimited possibility to bribe politicians (in the US).
Many laws that "regulate" corporations, are written by the corporations, and rubber-stamped by Congress.

Bribery isn't legal in all capitalistic democracies, but that only means that corporations have to be more creative elsewhere. Money is power, and the accumulated money of big corporations makes them more powerful than some governments. This power is the second major problem with capitalism.

Do you really believe that's an accurate portrayal of things in USA?

 

[Kfox]

The State is present everywhere in Italy.
Even in the contract between employer and employee.

Wow! I am sorry or you guys.

 

[Estro Felino]

Wow! I am sorry or you guys.

I think that the private sector cannot work unless there is a strict State preventing the strong from enslaving the weak.

 

[Revoltingest]

Wow! I am sorry or you guys.

Maybe that's why Italy embraced Hitler early on in WW2.
They saw him as progressive relative to their own dear leader.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think that the private sector cannot work unless there is a strict State preventing the strong from enslaving the weak.

Socialism can't work unless there is a strict State enslaving the masses to serve the elites.

 

[Wu Wei]

If you wanted to engage in a debate with me, you would speak of the profit maximization and of microeconomics, instead of anecdotal arguments.


That corrupt politicians exist in any economic system...is a given.
But that is irrelevant to the discussion.

I don’t want to engage in a debate with you, it would be a silly waste of time. You believe the Russian propaganda without question. And think you’re an expert because you read a couple books and speak Russian. And, as you did with my post, when something flies in the face of your claims you change the discussion, or just go i to denial…. That is what I expect from you. That was posted to inform others that communist nations are just as bad, if not worse…. Oh and so you know, those crocked politicians i listed are and were in charge of their country, and in the case of china the corruption doesn’t end there it trickles down and can get to trump up charges for jail time or execution. And Russia is mot a whole lot different

 

[Heyo]

Spoken like someone that clearly never operated a business and fails to think things through properly.

Do you think a product made with "cheap and unsafe materials" will sell well?

Think it through...
You find yourself in a store as a customer looking for a new washing machine.
They have 2 options. Both cost 500 bucks.
The first one is well made using safe and quality materials.
The second one is made using unsafe and cheap materials.

Which one do you buy?
Do you think ANYONE would buy the second one?

If you can get a brand machine for the same price as a no-name, you go for the brand every time, so it's a bad comparison.
Contemplate a 500 bucks brand machine that costs 250 bucks to make (which you don't know) and a no-name machine for 400 bucks (that cost 100 bucks to make, which you don't know).
How many people will go for the 400 bucks machine? And when the company goes belly up, no problem. The investors have made their quick buck (and more than they would have made by investing in the brand company). It's only important to know when to jump ship.

 

[clara17]

I think that the private sector cannot work unless there is a strict State preventing the strong from enslaving the weak.

Since, all governments always have and always will be controlled by whoever has the most resources, thru a variety of methods- a powerful state will never benefit the weak. The only chance the weak have is to minimize the size and power of government, and then the rich have money, but not power.

 

[Revoltingest]

If you can get a brand machine for the same price as a no-name, you go for the brand every time, so it's a bad comparison.
Contemplate a 500 bucks brand machine that costs 250 bucks to make (which you don't know) and a no-name machine for 400 bucks (that cost 100 bucks to make, which you don't know).
How many people will go for the 400 bucks machine? And when the company goes belly up, no problem. The investors have made their quick buck (and more than they would have made by investing in the brand company). It's only important to know when to jump ship.

This is why due diligence pays.
Check reviews.
Investigate the product.
Consider your task.
Is the company likely to be around later for support?

I applied this approach to museum asset
management software we're considering using.
I want a large installed base, which ensures that
the company has its overhead distributed over
many users, & makes updates less spendy.
Such a company is likely to survive, & not leave
us with an orphan.
I currently manage my assets & other things
on a product that's been unsupported for
a couple decades. Not the best thing.

 

[Kfox]

I think that the private sector cannot work unless there is a strict State preventing the strong from enslaving the weak.

Of course there need to be laws in place to prevent unreasonable abuse, but this idea of no power imbalance between employee and employer, like the employee has just as much say in how the business is run as the person who started the business, that sounds absurd to me.

 

[clara17]

Of course there need to be laws in place to prevent unreasonable abuse, but this idea of no power imbalance between employee and employer, like the employee has just as much say in how the business is run as the person who started the business, that sounds absurd to me.

I dont agree, if you hire me to mow the lawn, I have the same rights to your wife as you do.

 

[Kathryn]

I too know such people.
They're fortunate to be able to make the transition
from doing a trade to running a business wherein
employees perform that trade. Very different skills
& focus.

You are not kidding. My late husband and I owned a business, which was small. I handled all the paperwork and he did the actual work. Other than that, we rarely had any other employees. I was not freaked out but I WAS very aware (I thought) that he overlooked the paperwork. However, he was always asking me if we had enough money to do something or other (we did). Anyway, so several years went by and one day he said, "I don't know how to get into the business accounts online, can you show me how to do it?" WHAT????????? Here I had been thinking all along that not only did he know how to get into it, he was overlooking it but clearly he NEVER was. It's a good thing I was honest, is all I can say about that.

 

[Kathryn]

I dont agree, if you hire me to mow the lawn, I have the same rights to your wife as you do.

I disagree. I think you may have the same rights to mow the lawn but I don't think you have the same rights to his wife as he does.

 

[clara17]

I disagree. I think you may have the same rights to mow the lawn but I don't think you have the same rights to his wife as he does.

i... ya, i know its sarcasm, like the marxist gen z moron who is hired to hold a sign board and thinks he founded the company.