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Challenge for atheists, worship Satan.

`mud

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
I'm somewhat surprised by the way that (satan) is capitalized..
I can see theists capitalizing God, or Jesus, but satan ?
From where does the honor come ?
 
Kelly of the Phoenix

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Disciple of Jesus said:
The premise theory would be that the atheist either realizes that Satan is real, or not. That's all.
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But you claim Satan isn't a god, so what does that change? Satan being real doesn't mean God would be. After all, before Judaism became officially monotheistic, several gods and goddesses were worshiped. Your logic would indicate that if I worship Yah(weh), then El, Asherah, Anat, Baal, Astarte, Mot, etc are all real too.
 
`mud

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
I'm 80 years old now, two posters have insinuated that I don't understand common rules of language. Really ?
I was pointing out that satan is not a `proper` name.
It's an imagination of an non-entity that is imaginative at best.
satan never existed, anywhere, for any realistic purpose,
except for representing evil on human's mindsets.
Please...give me a break...to believe in satan...wow !
Evil does exist, sadly, but there's no devil or satan `down` there anywhere, and no torturous, burning fire for infinity.
 
9-10ths_Penguin

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
'mud said:
I'm 80 years old now, two posters have insinuated that I don't understand common rules of language. Really ?
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Given your explanation that follows... yes, frankly. It does seem that you don’t understand this rule of language.

In English, the names of imaginary characters are still capitalized. If I capitalize “the Wizard of Oz,” this doesn’t mean I think he literally exists.

I was pointing out that satan is not a `proper` name.
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Neither is “the Wizard of Oz.”

It's an imagination of an non-entity that is imaginative at best.
satan never existed, anywhere, for any realistic purpose,
except for representing evil on human's mindsets.
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It exists as a literary character if nothing else.
 
`mud

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
I give up….worship what one wishes....with or without the caps.
May imagination be one's guide, acknowledge one's source.
 
Mindmaster

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
crossfire said:
I can't say I'm an atheist, but worship does not compute.
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Worship isn't used in the context of Theistic Satanism at least in the context of what is commonly understood as worship.

Theistic Satanists do not have a master-slave relationship with their deity, they have a partnership/friendship arrangement. :D It's also common for Satan to be a muse to someone theistic, so it's not necessarily that they have an active component to venerating him at least in the classical sense of worship.

Personally, I am pretty much a hybrid of all of that. I don't bow before Satan, but I don't feel he requires that. What he requires is a free spirit, independence, and creativity. None of that involves being a servant or follower and being as such just takes you farther away from his vibe. You would do more to venerate Satan by encouraging others to not be sheep, writing something, teaching (remember Jehovah is all against the knowledge coming out, he want's slaves... Satan is all about you finding the 'secrets'), and so on. Satanism is an active path where the devotion is through manifestation, not falling on your knees or beating people down with 2,000 year old books.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
'mud said:
I'm 80 years old now, two posters have insinuated that I don't understand common rules of language. Really ?
I was pointing out that satan is not a `proper` name.
It's an imagination of an non-entity that is imaginative at best.
satan never existed, anywhere, for any realistic purpose,
except for representing evil on human's mindsets.
Please...give me a break...to believe in satan...wow !
Evil does exist, sadly, but there's no devil or satan `down` there anywhere, and no torturous, burning fire for infinity.
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Capital, or lower case?

Sorry-ah, but you are rong.
 
EtuMalku

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Disciple of Jesus said:
Since atheists don't believe in Satan, here is a challenge, that is simple.

Worship Satan as sincerely as you can. Then note if anything happens. If atheism is real, nothing should happen. If Satan is real, you might get an indication of that, via Spiritual awareness, etc, of such.

Shalom
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Oddly enough there are about six billion people who worship some form of the Abrahamic god . . . and absolutely nothing occurs from that either.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Disciple of Jesus said:
Since atheists don't believe in Satan, here is a challenge, that is simple.

Worship Satan as sincerely as you can. Then note if anything happens. If atheism is real, nothing should happen. If Satan is real, you might get an indication of that, via Spiritual awareness, etc, of such.

Shalom
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I have a far more intetesting and
meaningful test, or challenge for
you theists.

It is probably beyond the capacity of
any of you to actually do it, with sincerity
and an actual spiritual quest in your heart.

And yet is also incredibly simple-anyone
could do it, if they have a bit of courage.

If you, or anyone else did it, they'd
learn something of fundemental
significance to their faith.
 
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