Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
And what exactly does that mean?
@SkepticThinker is one of the kindest people I've met on this forum.
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Challenge for those that believe in billions of years for the age of things. Give anything that is more than 6000 years old. NO ASSUMPTIONS ALLOWED.
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And what exactly does that mean?
@SkepticThinker is one of the kindest people I've met on this forum.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Aww shucks. That's exactly how I would describe you!
There was no global flood.
The Big Bang theory is correct beyond reasonable doubt. The universe began expanding some 13 billion years ago, organizing itself into filaments of galaxies of solar systems comprising the elements. There was almost certainly a symmetry breaking generating the fundamental particles and forces, and an inflationary period.
Then this must be the delusion: "I’m far from delusional. I don’t usually say this but it is you who are the delusional one unfortunately"
Why are you here on RF? Your agenda is obvious - to promote your religious beliefs in front of your god as you understand it intends for you to do - but you're faced with same obstacles as other creationists. Your position has been refuted by the science you've never learned and don't understand, and yet here you are fighting your fight faced with several people that can and do correct your errors because you believe that its expected of you.
It's really not fair what they ask you do, but remember, that religion is a business, and your job is to help bring in more tithers to build help more churches and support clergy. They really don't care how that makes you feel. You behave like somebody who feels overwhelmed and beset, and that can't be pleasant, but your apparent hope is that maybe if the big man sees what you suffer for him, it'll help get you into heaven. Why else would you willingly subject yourself to this virtual martyrdom?
Yes, and you've been told that you're not believable. If you did know, you could demonstrate it to others using the same evidence that allowed you to know. On the other hand, if all you have is an unfalsifiable, faith-based belief, you can't do that.
And here's confirmation of that. Yes, it's idiotic (I'd say futile) to try to demonstrate the existence of the nonexistent just as it's a mistake to believe such things.
I think you find single sentences a little easier to follow than paragraphs, especially short sentences with short words. Why? Because that's how you write - like Trump speaks.
Of course you see it like that. This is how you perceive paragraphs of text organized into a thesis.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
So you believe what they claim. But there seems to be big problems with it
Big Bang is dead.
Redshift anomalies and other things that invalidate the Big Bang expansion
https://www.researchgate.net/public...ft_Data_and_the_Myth_of_Cosmological_Distance
Click on see the full text.
Anomalies in the count of low red shift quasars.
Anomalies in the Counts of Low Redshift Quasars
https://assa.saao.ac.za/wp-content/...liffe-A-review-of-anomalous-redshift-data.pdf
Redshift Anomalies and the Big Bang – Anthony Beckett
Is a new anomaly affecting the entire Universe?
Galaxies and the Universe - Alternate Approaches and the Redshift Controversy
These two shows that today’s age estimate is a farce. The very exact number may be off by 100%. Of course if 100% is the error, then -100% puts it at about 6000 years.
'Tired light' might make the universe twice as old as we thought
Scientists have revisited the disproven light ageing hypothesis, which suggests the universe has been around for almost 27 billion years
More problems with the Big Bang Theory and the redshift explanation.
Plasma Cosmology .net
Exploring Cosmic Voids and Anomalies: The Mystery of the Cold Spot
Large Scale Cosmological Anomalies and Inhomogeneous Dark Energy
What if the Universe Is NOT Expanding?
The Big Bang Theory-A Scientific Critique [Part I] [Whole] - Apologetics Press
Galaxy Making Stars at the Edge of the Universe and Other “Surprises”
https://act.princeton.edu/sites/g/files/toruqf1171/files/a9r1o5g11h_6viqvc_3u4_0.pdf
The Scientific Evidence Against the Big Bang - LPP Fusion
https://creation.com/quasar-with-en...-nearby-spiral-galaxy-with-far-lower-redshift
https://iai.tv/articles/the-big-bang-bust-up-auid-2253
https://www.tsijournals.com/articles/the-big-bang-never-happened-a-conclusive-argument-14111.html
https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10338699
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18625061-800-did-the-big-bang-really-happen/
https://darkmattercrisis.wordpress.com/category/cosmology/mond/
https://www.sci.news/astronomy/science-universe-not-expanding-01940.html
https://www.quantamagazine.org/astronomers-get-their-wish-and-the-hubble-crisis-gets-worse-20201217/
https://physicsworld.com/a/are-giant-galaxy-clusters-defying-standard-cosmology/
http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/redshift.html
Web telescope
Too many spiral galaxies in the early universe.
James Webb telescope spots thousands of Milky Way lookalikes that 'shouldn't exist' swarming across the early universe
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/james-webb-telescope-spots-thousands-173000173.html
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
Left field
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
I doubt it
McBell
Unbound
You really should get a new song and dance.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
Good for you that you have an open mind to psychology and yts army
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
It was spot on.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
Spot on for those who blindly believe what science feeds em
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Well, that wouldn't be that poster.
Nor do I "blindly believe what science feeds em."
So you're 0 for 2 in your assumptions.
Any time you're actually interested in engaging in something beyond dismissive one-liners, be sure to let us know.
The dismissive one liners are a sign of a beaten subject with no real answers
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
So sad that all you have is false claims about others. But then deniers of reality are often jealous of the fact that science can answer some questions when they cannot answer any.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No, it is just a list that demonstrates that you have no clue as to how science is done. The James Webb Telescope has not refuted the Big Bang. It gives us some new information, but there has not been nearly enough time to analyze it yet. But then you are desperate to defend a myth that was refuted almost 200 years ago. Some of your myths were refuted even before that.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
I find it insulting that you repeatedly use the word "idiotic" to characterize sharing evidence of the supernatural with others. You may not believe in what I do in terms of investigating the paranormal and sharing my results with others, but labeling it as idiotic is insulting to me. I have devoted the last 16 years of my life to researching and investigating the paranormal. The reason I post on this forum about my experiences with the paranormal is to offer other people who have never experienced what I have a glimpse into what it's like to experience something so extraordinary. My main objective is to educate others about the paranormal in an effort to help dispel the negative stigma associated with it. I don't share my years of experience on this forum to argue and debate with skeptics or try to persuade them to believe. They can make up their own minds whether to believe me or not. To be honest, it makes no difference to me whether others believe me or not because their skepticism doesn't alter the reality of my experiences, which span 44 years of my life. FYI, I disagree with your personal beliefs, but out of respect for you, I would never refer to them as idiotic or use any other derogatory term to describe them.
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Alien826
No religious beliefs
If your doctor tells you you have cancer and a second doctor agrees, do you "blindly believe" what they say, or trust the medical science that they both know, and the science behind the X-ray machine or MRI machine that helped them in their diagnosis? Or do you simply trust, like most of us, that the science that is soon going to save your life is trustworthy?
If your answer is "trust" do you also agree that the myriad examples of things that come from successful scientific research that you encounter in your daily life are also worthy of your trust? If so, you are demonstrating in your life that you consider science in general to be trustworthy. So what's with this "blindly [believing]"? Does that apply to you too?
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
Can you meet this challenge?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
And I am holding you personally responsible for bringing us all this rain...Hah! That is only because you are deluded too!!
I mean I give you the credit for it since I like rain, but can you lighten it up a bit?
I have to take the trash out to the street and it is a loooooooooong walk down the gravel road!
And I am holding you personally responsible for bringing us all this rain...
I mean I give you the credit for it since I like rain, but can you lighten it up a bit?
I have to take the trash out to the street and it is a loooooooooong walk down the gravel road!
You have rain, you lucky person you, we have drought, about 6 hours rain since May. Water restrictions are in force, rivers are low, my local Ceou river is a series of pools joined by a trickle. So if you can see your way to diverting a few million gallons across the Atlantic i will be very grateful.