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Challenge for those that believe in billions of years for the age of things. Give anything that is more than 6000 years old. NO ASSUMPTIONS ALLOWED.

SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Subduction Zone said:
Who has assumed that there is no God? You do realize that some of the people that you are debating with are theists, don't you? They believe in God. Some of the people that you are arguing with are Christians. They not only believe in God, they believe in the Christian God. And it does not appear that even the atheist are assuming that there is no God.

The way that you abuse that word makes me thing that you do not understand the concept.
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But if you do not consider what God did during the last 6000 years in determining the age of things, then you are using the no God assumption. Yes many have been conned into that. Just more fulfilled prophecy from the Bible.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
SavedByTheLord said:
But if you do not consider what God did during the last 6000 years in determining the age of things, then you are using the no God assumption. Yes many have been conned into that. Just more fulfilled prophecy from the Bible.
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Why would I? There is no reasonable reason to bring God into it. That is a God neutral stance. It is not a "No God stance". If you want to bring God into the argument then you would need to follow the scientific method and show why God is needed. Do you remember that I posted a rough blue print of the scientific method? Can you tell me how you would involve God into an argument:

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SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Subduction Zone said:
Why would I? There is no reasonable reason to bring God into it. That is a God neutral stance. It is not a "No God stance". If you want to bring God into the argument then you would need to follow the scientific method and show why God is needed. Do you remember that I posted a rough blue print of the scientific method? Can you tell me how you would involve God into an argument:

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That is a nice diagrams and I like the use of colors, so why are evolutionists not following that?
Where did you people go wrong?
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
SavedByTheLord said:
That is a nice diagrams and I like the use of colors, so why are evolutionists not following that?
Where did you people go wrong?
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They didn't go wrong. And you are supposed to be forming your beliefs into a scientific concept. That would lead to a possibility of you finding evidence for your beliefs.
 
SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Subduction Zone said:
They didn't go wrong. And you are supposed to be forming your beliefs into a scientific concept. That would lead to a possibility of you finding evidence for your beliefs.
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I already did.
What was the first living thing?
What are the odds against that coming into being through natural processes?
Please show your calculations like I did.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
SavedByTheLord said:
I already did.
What was the first living thing?
What are the odds against that coming into being through natural processes?
Please show your calculations like I did.
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Where?? I never saw it.

And please stop with the silly questions. You couldn't answer similar God questions. Does that mean that God doesn't exist?
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
SavedByTheLord said:
Please show your calculations like I did.
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You have not shown your math.
even though I flat out asked for it numerous of times.

In fact, you completely disappeared out of the thread right after I flat out asked how you, with your self declared academic achievements, did not understand "show your work".
 
SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
McBell said:
The projection is strong in this one.
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What was the first living thing? Did it have DNA or RNA?
What was its code?
how many different proteins did it have and what were their functions?
How many amino acids did it have?
What are the odds against that and please show calculations.
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
SavedByTheLord said:
What was the first living thing? Did it have DNA or RNA?
What was its code?
how many different proteins did it have and what were their functions?
How many amino acids did it have?
What are the odds against that and please show calculations.
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Already been addressed.

Care to try something new?
I mean, that old song and dance has already been played out.

And you have not shown your math.
Even when flat out asked numerous times.

How is it someone with your supposed academic achievements does not understand "show your work?"
 
John53

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
SavedByTheLord said:
What was the first living thing? Did it have DNA or RNA?
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Don't know. Don't know.

What was its code?
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You'll have to be more specific. What code are you talking about?

how many different proteins did it have and what were their functions?
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Don't know

How many amino acids did it have?
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Don't know.

What are the odds against that and please show calculations.
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Odds against it...hmmm. I doubt anyone would take a bet on it not happening because it has happened. There is living things.
 
SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
John53 said:
Don't know. Don't know.



You'll have to be more specific. What code are you talking about?



Don't know



Don't know.



Odds against it...hmmm. I doubt anyone would take a bet on it not happening because it has happened. There is living things.
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Thanks for all that information.
 
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