Christian Magic?

[Rainbow Mage]

I was watching an Easter sermon of some kind with my dad on TV. I was barely paying attention to it, at any rate, they were talking about the blood of Jesus and all this stuff. Isn't this whole blood of Jesus deal just very powerful blood magic? I mean even if Jesus didn't intend to give his life for people, just the fact that millions believe he did constitutes very powerful magic. Does anyone else agree?

 

[Revasser]

I think you'll find yourself running into people making a bunch of arbitrary distinctions between divine intercession/miracles and magic/sorcery when you ask this kind of question.

When it comes down to it, the difference seems to be "well, ours is different and okay because its ours!"

 

[Gentoo]

I think you'll find yourself running into people making a bunch of arbitrary distinctions between divine intercession/miracles and magic/sorcery when you ask this kind of question.

When it comes down to it, the difference seems to be "well, ours is different and okay because its ours!"

I couldn't have said it better.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Christian Magic: Hypocrisy at its finest.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Christian Magic: Hypocrisy at its finest.

:yes: Like that whole bread and wine changing deal.

 

[LoTrobador]

:yes: Like that whole bread and wine changing deal.

What are you referring to precisely?

 

[Perfect Circle]

Only level 9 christians can do magic... and ONLY if they go up that specific skill tree.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Christian Magic: Hypocrisy at its finest.

:yes: Like that whole bread and wine changing deal.

What are you referring to precisely?

I believe he is referring to the magic involved when a mortal priest uses a magical process and converts thin wafers into the body of Jesus and turns watered down wine into the blood of Jesus.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

I believe he is referring to the magic involved when a mortal priest uses a magical process and converts thin wafers into the body of Jesus and turns watered down wine into the blood of Jesus.

:yes: Just like magic. That's exactly what magic is, invoking a name/names of a divine being and doing something like that. Baptism is magic too, powerful magic at that. Christians don't realize how powerful some of their magic is

 

[Vasilisa Jade]

I agree. It is just like magic. There are occultic roots in the Catholic church as well. The practice of exorcisms is the most well known. The litergy and symbolic set up of mass is also very ceremonial.

 

[Azakel]

I agree. It is just like magic. There are occultic roots in the Catholic church as well. The practice of exorcisms is the most well known. The litergy and symbolic set up of mass is also very ceremonial.

Vary true. I believe this is way that before I found the path I am on(and forging) I was looking into Catholicism...hehe.

 

[tarasan]

I was watching an Easter sermon of some kind with my dad on TV. I was barely paying attention to it, at any rate, they were talking about the blood of Jesus and all this stuff. Isn't this whole blood of Jesus deal just very powerful blood magic? I mean even if Jesus didn't intend to give his life for people, just the fact that millions believe he did constitutes very powerful magic. Does anyone else agree?

communion has no magical power, it is merely a symbolic ceremony when we remeber what Christ did for us. It has no powers and it isnt meant to do anything other than let us reflect.

 

[blackout]

communion has no magical power, it is merely a symbolic ceremony when we remeber what Christ did for us. It has no powers and it isnt meant to do anything other than let us reflect.

Not according to roman catholic christians.

 

[tarasan]

Not according to roman catholic christians.

erm, yeah, youll find no even most of them believe its the actual blood and body of Jesus Christ, besides even if I did accept that it was true among the majority that would still only count the Catholic church, the hypocricy would only be on that side, they also would tend to say "miracle" than magic.

 

[Azakel]

communion has no magical power, it is merely a symbolic ceremony when we remeber what Christ did for us. It has no powers and it isnt meant to do anything other than let us reflect.

You need to study up on Magick. That 'symbolism' is vary apart of magick, whether you realize it or not.

 

[Azakel]

"miracle" than magic.

And what is the difference?
What is a miracle if not a 'type'(form) of Maigck.

 

[tarasan]

You need to study up on Magick. That 'symbolism' is vary apart of magick, whether you realize it or not.

thats all it is thought just symoblism, its only in remeberance for the protest church it doesnt "do" anything

we tend to say no to magic that does stuff. if i can be be as blunt as non discriptive as that and get away with it.

 

[tarasan]

And what is the difference?
What is a miracle if not a 'type'(form) of Maigck.

I guess they would difine magic as something humans do while conversing with demons or spirits, Miracles are something done by God, so let me put it by this way

Magic, construct of man to gain power for himself and play the role of God
Miralce, God

 

[Azakel]

I guess they would difine magic as something humans do while conversing with demons or spirits, Miracles are something done by God, so let me put it by this way

Magic, construct of man to gain power for himself and play the role of God
Miralce, God

The there this is a vary closed minded and sad view of magick. And there is nothing more to discus unless one opens up and understand what we're talking about here.

 

[tarasan]

The there this is a vary closed minded and sad view of magick. And there is nothing more to discus unless one opens up and understand what we're talking about here.

then tell me what? dont just say ohh your closeminded and leave it at that without even attempting to explain why im wrong.

Christians dont like magic because it manipulates and distorts Gods creation, to humanities own ends, we believe its unatural to Gods creation. If your not talking about something like this then YOU are just as close minded as me not trying to figure out why we (christians) dont like magic and then applying it your belief. If its merely symoblic then I see no more harm in it than other religions however if it manipulates Gods world then yes it is wrong.