"Christian Nationalism is Not Christianity"

[Estro Felino]

Using racism to fight racism (or sexism to fight sexism, etc.) is an asinine double standard and I don't support it.

The double standards take place whenever migrants move to the United States and feel bothered by crucifixes, by the bell towers, the bells sound, by the Christian cultures and they ask for "concealing" all these showy symbols of a religion which is not theirs.
Whereas in their countries of origin, Christians are merely tolerated.
Doublestandardism at its best.

 

[Father Heathen]

The double standards take place whenever migrants move to the United States and feel bothered by crucifixes, by the bell towers, the bells sound, by the Christian cultures and they ask for "concealing" all these showy symbols of a religion which is not theirs.
Whereas in their countries of origin, Christians are merely tolerated.
Doublestandardism at its best.

People who migrate to another country and not only detest the local culture but demand that it change can **** right off.

 

[Kenny]

It sounds like you are a Paulist. Remember what Jesus said about those laws, not one jot or tittle.

LOL... No, I am Christian that realizes that God loves the world. In my signature perspective, "For God so loved the world (that includes you and me), that He gave His only begotten son that whosever believes in him will no perish but have everlasting life. (At least in my world-view)

 

[Subduction Zone]

LOL... No, I am Christian that realizes that God loves the world. In my signature perspective, "For God so loved the world (that includes you and me), that He gave His only begotten son that whosever believes in him will no perish but have everlasting life. (At least in my world-view)

It does not seem that way quite often. The problem is for those that try to use the Old Testament when they want to id that Jesus himself said that the laws of the Old Testament still apply. He did not appear to have a Get Out of Jail Free Card for those that were not born Jews.

 

[Kenny]

It does not seem that way quite often. The problem is for those that try to use the Old Testament when they want to id that Jesus himself said that the laws of the Old Testament still apply. He did not appear to have a Get Out of Jail Free Card for those that were not born Jews.

I think the problem is more in cherry picking scriptures and making them say what you want them to say. IMHO

 

[Subduction Zone]

I think the problem is more in cherry picking scriptures and making them say what you want them to say. IMHO

No, it is not "cherry picking" to see what Jesus said about the topic being discussed. The religion is named after him, isn't it?

 

[Kenny]

No, it is not "cherry picking" to see what Jesus said about the topic being discussed. The religion is named after him, isn't it?

I think it is. Just what do you think "fulfilled" means? And, if it is about the topic, what in the world does that topic mesh with your statement?

 

[Dao Hao Now]

The double standards take place whenever migrants move to the United States and feel bothered by crucifixes, by the bell towers, the bells sound, by the Christian cultures and they ask for "concealing" all these showy symbols of a religion which is not theirs.
Whereas in their countries of origin, Christians are merely tolerated.
Doublestandardism at its best.

Can you show examples of where this has happened?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I think it is. Just what do you think "fulfilled" means? And, if it is about the topic, what in the world does that topic mesh with your statement?

Everything was to be fulfilled. That has not happened. Or are you saying that Jesus is not coming back?

 

[Kenny]

Everything was to be fulfilled. That has not happened. Or are you saying that Jesus is not coming back?

There we go twisting again.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There we go twisting again.

That would be you. You were the one that brought up the "fulfilled" argument and when the most obvious thing that was not fulfilled was mentioned you went into twist mode.

 

[ppp]

It's not my job nor my responsibility to overcome your ignorance and bias against religion.

It is your job to make your posts coherent, cohesive and relevant. Your last post was a series of disjointed statements that were connected only by your feelings about them. It's fine to have feelings, but in the future try to organize them with a logical through line.

 

[ppp]

And how would you know what each individual follower of Christ was doing? You don't.

According to your theology are you not the sinners? According to your theology are we not all sinners?

 

[Kenny]

That would be you. You were the one that brought up the "fulfilled" argument and when the most obvious thing that was not fulfilled was mentioned you went into twist mode.

If you want to believe that... it's your game and your life.

 

[Kenny]

According to your theology are you not the sinners? According to your theology are we not all sinners?

Depends on what you mean by that.

Technically, and I think we all can agree, we all sin.

But when one receives Jesus, that person can say "I was a sinner, but now I am a child of God saved by grace". We may still sin, but we wouldn't be classified as sinners. Like we probably all lie but being called a liar is a different judgment.

 

[Wildswanderer]

According to your theology are you not the sinners? According to your theology are we not all sinners?

Of course we are.
That's not the same as doing the opposite of what Jesus taught.
In context, we were talking about forced conversions.

 

[Father Heathen]

We may still sin, but we wouldn't be classified as sinners.

In other words, once you profess your acceptance of Christ, character and conduct cease to matter?

 

[ppp]

Depends on what you mean by that.

Technically, and I think we all can agree, we all sin.

But when one receives Jesus, that person can say "I was a sinner, but now I am a child of God saved by grace". We may still sin, but we wouldn't be classified as sinners. Like we probably all lie but being called a liar is a different judgment.

That is some verbose double talk to explain away a distinction without a difference.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Without an OT there is no NT.

Without an OT, the NT might lack context. But any of the books in the Bible, old or new testament or apocrypha, can be read independently of the others. You’d miss some of the OT references in the Gospels, but most people miss those anyway. Like you can read Keats and Shelley without the classical references

 

[ppp]

Of course we are.
That's not the same as doing the opposite of what Jesus taught.
In context, we were talking about forced conversions.

You're going to have to break that down for me.

Sinner means 'one who sins'
You are a sinner.
Therefore you are one who sins.

Correct?