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Christianity Is Only Popular Because Of Its Idle Threats

Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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InChrist said:
If a human orders the slaughter of people in a nation, yes, it is immoral. God is not a mere human being, but the Creator of heaven and earth. God is the giver of life and also the ultimate Judge to determine when life is over. Those people who O assume you are referring to in the OT account were judged for their completely wicked ways and culture. Not only that, they were given years and years of warning and opportunity to change. God always gives warnings before judgement. God is patient. God always has valid reasons for His actions. God is always Holy, righteous and completely moral.
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Sorry, but this is a special pleading fallacy. God does not get a "Get out of jail free card" just because he is God.

Besides that we know that many of the genocides claimed in the Bible did not happen. Relax, your God is not as evil as the Old Testament makes him out to be.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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InChrist said:
Slavery was and always has been a sinful practice invented by sinful humans. God does not condone it, nor many of the other sinful behaviors humans practice.
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Let's change it to prostitution. If I told you where the prostitutes were, how much you would expect to pay, and what you could do with them and even how to trick non-prostitutes into being a prostitute wouldn't you claim that I was advocating for prostitution?
 
InChrist

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Subduction Zone said:
Babies are not evil. And in the myth there would have been countless babies.

You are once again claiming that your version of God is evil. And incompetent. That is not good.
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You like to put words in my mouth, just speak for yourself.
Babies are not evil, yet God knew the point at which the culture they were born into and being raised in was so evil to be beyond hope or change. Those people were judged. The babies and children went straight to joy in the Presence of Jesus.
 
Sgt. Pepper

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Subduction Zone said:
Sorry, but it does if one understands it. Luckily for Christians we know that the fastest road to atheism is reading the Bible literally since it so quickly disproves itself if one does so. One does not heed to believe in an immoral God if one is a Christian.
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My perspective on the Bible has certainly changed since I'm not influenced by a belief and faith in God anymore. Of course, I read the Bible from cover to cover during the thirty years I was a devout Christian, but because I had been indoctrinated to believe that it was the infallible and inerrant word of God, I read it through rose-colored glasses. And now, when I read the Bible to compare its stories to those of pagan religions that predate both it and Christianity, I sometimes feel quite foolish for believing it was true in the first place.
 
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Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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InChrist said:
You like to put words in my mouth, just speak for yourself.
Babies are not evil, yet God knew the point at which the culture they were born into and being raised in was so evil to be beyond hope or change. Those people were judged. The babies and children went straight to joy in the Presence of Jesus.
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I am just using logic for you. You keep claiming that God is incompetent and evil. You may not realize that, but that is what you have just done again.

One once again, we know that there never was a Flood of Noah, so your God cannot be blamed for that. I have pointed out the consequences of what it would mean if your claims were true. That is all. That is not putting words in your mouth since those conclusions are based upon your claims.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Sgt. Pepper said:
My perspective on the Bible has certainly changed since I'm not influenced by a belief and faith in God anymore. Of course, I read the Bible from cover to cover during the thirty years I was a devout Christian, but because I had been indoctrinated to believe that it was the infallible and inerrant word of God, I read it through rose-colored glasses. To be honest, I sometimes feel foolish that I ever believed the Bible was true.
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Same here.
 
InChrist

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Policy said:
The Bible depicts God as both advocating for slavery and condoning it's practice. Go actually read the thing.
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No, the Bible depicts God dealing with people and cultures where they were at. There are plenty of behaviors humans have done or cultures have practiced throughout history, even in Israel, which are not in line with God’s will. Yet, He lets humans do their thing and face the consequences. If God were to intervene, stop and judge everything wrong humans did... everyone would have been judged and eliminated long ago.
 
InChrist

InChrist

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Subduction Zone said:
I am just using logic for you. You keep claiming that God is incompetent and evil. You may not realize that, but that is what you have just done again.

One once again, we know that there never was a Flood of Noah, so your God cannot be blamed for that. I have pointed out the consequences of what it would mean if your claims were true. That is all. That is not putting words in your mouth since those conclusions are based upon your claims.
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Oh, so I am supposed to take your reasoning and logic over that of the Creator of heaven and earth?
Don’t think so.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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InChrist said:
No, the Bible depicts God dealing with people and cultures where they were at. There are plenty of behaviors humans have done or cultures have practiced throughout history, even in Israel, which are not in line with God’s will. Yet, He lets humans do their thing and face the consequences. If God were to intervene, stop and judge everything wrong humans did... everyone would have been judged and eliminated long ago.
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Really? I don't think that you understand justice. Because there is nothing that people have done that merits universal genocide. You need to get rid of your fundamentalistic glasses. You keep claiming that God is immoral.

Tell us why do you think that any human has merited the death penalty from God?
 
InChrist

InChrist

Free4ever
Subduction Zone said:
Let's change it to prostitution. If I told you where the prostitutes were, how much you would expect to pay, and what you could do with them and even how to trick non-prostitutes into being a prostitute wouldn't you claim that I was advocating for prostitution?
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The Bible accounts are narratives of human behavior and activities, sinful or otherwise, at various time periods in history. That is not advocating, nor endorsing.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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InChrist said:
Oh, so I am supposed to take your reasoning and logic over that of the Creator of heaven and earth?
Don’t think so.
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No, I never claimed that. You seem to have forgotten that it was man that wrote the Bible. That it is not literally true is shown by the countless errors in it. Even if God was real people's inability to get the facts right when uneducated is more than reasonable.

You are breaking the Commandment against worshipping idols since you have turned the Bible into an idol.
 
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