yourgraceisenough
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what an odd statement I always thought it was pretty much accepted Jesus existed...
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Christianity verses Islam
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what an odd statement I always thought it was pretty much accepted Jesus existed...
tariqkhwaja
Jihad Against Terrorism
We in the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community (for reason you have stated as well as many others) do not believe Jesus is alive rather that he is dead. He won't come back.
Definitely Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) was far far better than Jesus in terms of the Holy Spirit, miracles, etc. all given to him.
The Messiah prophesized to come was not Jesus in person but that was just a title given to the one to come. That person was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian. He showed miracles himself and his community to which I belong continues to be witness to countless miracles daily. Islam is the religion to which God still sends Messiahs. Christianity has blocked any more Messiahs from coming.
yourgraceisenough
Active Member
lol...you cannot be serious, mo was just a bloke who tried to start a religion which failed then started a bandit clan that attacked travellers, he brough religion by the sword, not by peace as Jesus did...
Photonic
Ad astra!
Guess the Qu'ran isn't so good after all.
noo yopu canot be serius
jesus is the massaya 100/ he is the massaya and untill now he never dies untill now and he will be sent again to unfie all belivers crisitian jews and muslim under islam and to help ppl go thrw the end of the world and then we will die at the age of 40
thise is e base belief od islam and thise is what was metionned in the holy coran
the probleme that tariqkhwaja is the profecy of mohamed in the the taura and the gospel
the alighty god mention mohamed by the name of ahmed and jesus teach his first folowers aboute him but those parts of the gospel and the taura was taken away
but in the taura it was taken by jews because thy trash and thy trow bad words on ishmail the first son or ibrahim thy mention him in the taura but
the taura that we have now trash in ishmail ishmail is the signe that the blood of ibrahim in mohamed and mohamed and some tribes of the arabs back there were from ibrahim children hust as the jews
as for the comparasing of jesus and mohamed it s stupid we as folowers we canot see who is maghtyer than the other it stupid and evry profet have it context that he came to mohamed came to polythise arabs than all man-kind but jesus came to e nation of belivers thise is why there history is soo diffrebt
god say that mohamed is the leader of all the prfets
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yourgraceisenough
Active Member
lol...your still joking the bible does not mention mo, but you have to claim that as the koran has nothing to back it up but its own writings...
pls clarifie more pls???
well as for who have better miricales we know that mohamed didint raise the dead but there is profets have better miricals than jesus like salomon who have the thrown of every think
he controle evry think he was the king of animals , he controle the wind he controle the demaons and jinnis and he was e king of the jews soo should we worship him
2 the mirical of mohamed is that the holy coran anlilke all the first revalation it have the protection of god because mohamed is the last profet to all mankind noo other correction will came after it
and let us judje is raising dead better than e holy book that is perfect and in the oroginal forme
now how you know were is the damage of the gopsel changes stop in maybbe evry think that crestianity based on was an adds i
in the years or 20 centry adultry wish is very bad was all forms of fornictaion
now adultry is only sheating where did you know the teathing of jesus and the other add s that contradcit with the jesus teachting
the gospel canot stand in the face of libralisme but the coran does because it perfect and nothink left for debats and evry think is soo claire
eather youre e beliver or not eather you accpet all islam or you re not e beliver
he controle evry think he was the king of animals , he controle the wind he controle the demaons and jinnis and he was e king of the jews soo should we worship him
2 the mirical of mohamed is that the holy coran anlilke all the first revalation it have the protection of god because mohamed is the last profet to all mankind noo other correction will came after it
and let us judje is raising dead better than e holy book that is perfect and in the oroginal forme
now how you know were is the damage of the gopsel changes stop in maybbe evry think that crestianity based on was an adds i
in the years or 20 centry adultry wish is very bad was all forms of fornictaion
now adultry is only sheating where did you know the teathing of jesus and the other add s that contradcit with the jesus teachting
the gospel canot stand in the face of libralisme but the coran does because it perfect and nothink left for debats and evry think is soo claire
eather youre e beliver or not eather you accpet all islam or you re not e beliver
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SCHIZO
Active Member
Gnosticism doesn't block the messiah from coming. Gnosticism says that we can become the messiah (Jesus) through his teaching. Jesus is not dead. He is the living one.
tariqkhwaja
Jihad Against Terrorism
The Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is his full name. You would be nice to show respect to revered figures of other religions.
As has been proven continuously Islam does not need and did not use the sword to spread into people's hearts. Simple statistics outlined below show this:
From year 0 to year 13 of his Prophethood the Holy Prophet recruited 313 followers who followed Islam despite intense persecution and killing against them.
First war was fought with 313 followers.
Second war was fought with about 700 followers. How did the number of followers increase between these two wars?
Third war was fought with about 1500 followers. How did the number of followers increase between those two wars.
Final victory over Mecca was with 10,000 followers. How did the number of followers increase to 10,000? Which forced conversions were they?
Islam won the hearts of mean. Of the 12 primary disciples of Jesus 4 betrayed him (one for a measly price). However for first 13 years various followers of Islam had:
1. been driven out of their home
2. Coal burnt on their back
3. Had their ovaries speared to death
4. were split into two in front of their parents
5. were split into two in front of their children
and much more. Yet they did not stop proclaiming the truth of their religion.
tariqkhwaja
Jihad Against Terrorism
Huh? How you infer that?
tariqkhwaja
Jihad Against Terrorism
Sure Bible mentions. But that is not for this place.
tariqkhwaja
Jihad Against Terrorism
Right. And how many Gnostics have shown miracles? You have records?
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
I dont know about Gnostics, but Catholics have many known miracles happening.
Gaura Priya
IRL
I would rather be a Muslim than a Christian, because Islamic women have rights in the Qur'an, and they get to wear fashionable headscarves! n___n
tariqkhwaja
Jihad Against Terrorism
I alluded to this in the previous post so want to make it clear again:
Early Followers of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him):
Very obedient to their Prophet. Patiently bore unspeakable atrocities in the first 13 years and did not violently retaliate. Were martyred and tortured (parents split in front of their children by having camels tied to each side ... and vice versa). When asked to go to war they did not cover like Jews said to Moses. Rather, they solemnly swore to be on his right, left, in front, and behind and that the enemy would only reach him over their dead bodies. And their actions spoke louder than their words.
Early followers of Jesus (on him be peace):
Well I don't know about the real situation but as far as the Bible is concerned he had 12 core followers of which 4 betrayed him (including Peter who was his foremost follower so to speak). One betrayed him for some 30 pieces of silver. Not one even spoke out in support of him during the events of crucifixion. All preferring to remain covert.
Who wants more?
Early Followers of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him):
Very obedient to their Prophet. Patiently bore unspeakable atrocities in the first 13 years and did not violently retaliate. Were martyred and tortured (parents split in front of their children by having camels tied to each side ... and vice versa). When asked to go to war they did not cover like Jews said to Moses. Rather, they solemnly swore to be on his right, left, in front, and behind and that the enemy would only reach him over their dead bodies. And their actions spoke louder than their words.
Early followers of Jesus (on him be peace):
Well I don't know about the real situation but as far as the Bible is concerned he had 12 core followers of which 4 betrayed him (including Peter who was his foremost follower so to speak). One betrayed him for some 30 pieces of silver. Not one even spoke out in support of him during the events of crucifixion. All preferring to remain covert.
Who wants more?
Photonic
Ad astra!
Yea, and you get beat to death if you refuse to wear it!
Or if you show skin!
Equality!
Islamic countries are just oh so full of freedom, aren't they?
Barcode
Active Member
This was a terrible response
Barcode
Active Member
Before you make sarcastic comments you do know there is a difference between Muslim-dominated countries and Islamic countries right?!?
tariqkhwaja
Jihad Against Terrorism
You know for all the criticism waged on Islam based on Islamic countries today there is not a single incidence of women in Medina at Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) 's time when a woman was punished in any way for not wearing a veil.
Anyways Gaura didn't say women have rights in Islamic countries ... he said they have rights in Islam. Huge difference. Again evaluate based on origin. That is why I compared early followers of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) with early followers of Christianity. Since this is Islam versus Christianity I think it is not out of place to state that Quran actually has a chapter on women while the Bible does not care to do so.
In any case, "there is no compulsion in religion" according to Islam so Islamic government forcing the veil is not Islam.