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Christians can't be Anti-Semitic

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
'Jewish' refers to the religion, pretty much. A non practicing Jewish person is Semitic, or Hebrew, or if they converted, German or whatever.
If one not a Jew then one is a Gentile. A Gentile converted to Judaism is still a Gentile or a Gentile proselyte. You cannot change your genetic identification because you change your religion.
 

JM2C

CHRISTIAN
People convert to Judaism all the time.
They are Gentile proselytes to Judaism. Gentiles did not come from the 12 tribes of Israel. My question is; why do Gentiles wants to convert to Judaism/Law of Moses to have peace with God when they could have this/peace through the Lord Jesus Christ?

Ro 5:1 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

And that is without the Law of Moses.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
They are Gentile proselytes to Judaism. Gentiles did not come from the 12 tribes of Israel. My question is; why do Gentiles wants to convert to Judaism/Law of Moses to have peace with God when they could have this/peace through the Lord Jesus Christ?

Ro 5:1 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

And that is without the Law of Moses.

It depends on the person. From my limited interactions with Xians who converted, I don't think they put any validity into Jeshua or His authority, etc.
I mean, people convert to all sorts of religions, seems like you have to ask the individual.
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
They are Gentile proselytes to Judaism. Gentiles did not come from the 12 tribes of Israel. My question is; why do Gentiles wants to convert to Judaism/Law of Moses to have peace with God when they could have this/peace through the Lord Jesus Christ?

Ro 5:1 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

And that is without the Law of Moses.
Utterly ridiculous. A non-Jew who converts to Judaism is as Jewish as one born to a Jewish mother.

We do not determine Jewish identity by genetics, but by the rules of Jewish law. And certainly not by Christian scripture! Christianity is another religion-- nothing to do with Judaism.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Where do the word Semitic came from?

I think the word Semitic is very abused. and it has been stereotyped too much.
In fact, only in Linguistics it should be used, to describe the Semitic group, a very ancient linguistic group that includes ancient languages like Phoenician, Aramaic and modern languages like Arabic, Hebrew, Maltese.

so...Maltese people are also "Semitic" in a certain way...but they are Christian.

teh word comes from Sem, one of Noah's sons. The legend wants that he is the ancestor of all the Semitic nations.
 

JM2C

CHRISTIAN
Utterly ridiculous. A non-Jew who converts to Judaism is as Jewish as one born to a Jewish mother.
We do not determine Jewish identity by genetics, but by the rules of Jewish law.
The “Jewish Law”, is that the Law of Moses?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
When one converts to Judaism, they become one within the family as if they were borne into it. It's not that one's genes change, but a matter that one is considered "family", as we read in the case of Ruth.
 

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
Utterly ridiculous. A non-Jew who converts to Judaism is as Jewish as one born to a Jewish mother.

We do not determine Jewish identity by genetics, but by the rules of Jewish law. And certainly not by Christian scripture! Christianity is another religion-- nothing to do with Judaism.

At times like this there's nothing like the wisdom from our tradition, say Kohelet -
וגם בדרך כשהסכל הלך לבו חסר ואמר לכל סכל הוא
 
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JM2C

CHRISTIAN
Yes, but that doesn't change anything I've said.
About Gentiles converting to Judaism? Can anti-Semitism be applied to them after they/Gentiles converted to Judaism even if they did not have any relationship with Shem?

This is what the OP says:
"Why are we Christian sometimes accused of being anti-Semitic?" she replied: "well...that's impossible. I can't be against myself. I am both a Jewish and a Christian, because Christianity includes necessarily the Jewish religion. So, even if Judaism is different because Jews didn't recognize Jesus, it doesn't matter. I can't see any difference between a Jew and me".
My understanding is; one can Semitic ally be related to Shem by religion and not necessarily by blood or genealogy which is untrue base on the scriptures you’ve just provided.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
About Gentiles converting to Judaism? Can anti-Semitism be applied to them after they/Gentiles converted to Judaism even if they did not have any relationship with Shem?

This is what the OP says: My understanding is; one can Semitic ally be related to Shem by religion and not necessarily by blood or genealogy which is untrue base on the scriptures you’ve just provided.

I don't call 'anti-Judaism', 'anti-Semitism'. Anti-Semitism is actually an ethnic bias, that's why it's called that, and not, "antiJudaism". Anti-Semites don't necessarily care what religion someone is practicing.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
About Gentiles converting to Judaism? Can anti-Semitism be applied to them after they/Gentiles converted to Judaism even if they did not have any relationship with Shem?

This is what the OP says: My understanding is; one can Semitic ally be related to Shem by religion and not necessarily by blood or genealogy which is untrue base on the scriptures you’ve just provided.

Judaism is a very particular religion, because it includes, in its name, a national meaning.
It is very simple to define Christianity, au contraire. Because if you want to become Christian, it's sufficient you ask to be baptized by a priest, and you will be baptized in no time.

But in my perspective, the term Christian is a very universal concept. and you are a Christian if you act like a Christian. Acting like a Christian implies to love your neighbor as yourself.
so, given that lots of non-Christians normally demonstrate with their lifestyle to love their neighbor as themselves, they are Christian in my eyes.
 

JM2C

CHRISTIAN
When one converts to Judaism, they become one within the family as if they were borne into it. It's not that one's genes change, but a matter that one is considered "family", as we read in the case of Ruth.
Ruth, a Gentile Moabitess, husband to Boaz, an Israelite from the line of Judah. It shows how a Gentile woman became part of the Davidic ancestry and the Lord Jesus –Matthew 1:5. As a Gentile, I did not have to convert to Judaism to be related to Shem genetically, which is impossible, but spiritually through the Lord Jesus Christ without the Law of Moses.
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
Ruth, a Gentile Moabitess, husband to Boaz, an Israelite from the line of Judah. It shows how a Gentile woman became part of the Davidic ancestry and the Lord Jesus –Matthew 1:5. As a Gentile, I did not have to convert to Judaism to be related to Shem genetically, which is impossible, but spiritually through the Lord Jesus Christ without the Law of Moses.
You're not Jewish. You have no connection to Judaism. Christianity is a different religion, it has nothing to do with Judaism.

Ruth converted to Judaism. You didn't. That's the difference.
 
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