Christians can't be Anti-Semitic

[Flankerl]

I ask for forgiveness, then. I corrected my post
But you talked about the past...and about what the Catholic Church did.
I talked about the past too...talking about the Nazis.

First of all I don't even have a German Passport let alone citizenship.
Secondly even if I were German it's still borderline stupid to assume that a German Jew would be somewhat responsible for what happened between 1933 and 1945 or that these people were his/her beloved compatriots as they probably would've murdered him/her.

If I had been him, I would have protested against the Nazis and Hitler Himself, even at cost of being murdered, Dying as a martyr is a honor, when you fight against Evil.

No you probably wouldn't have. And I would be ashamed to write something like that.
It's always easy to make this broad statements about personal bravery if you'll never be in the situation to prove it.

 

[Estro Felino]

No you probably wouldn't have. And I would be ashamed to write something like that.
It's always easy to make this broad statements about personal bravery if you'll never be in the situation to prove it.

Of course I would.
I understand that it is difficult to believe me, but I swear to God that I am a person literally thirsty for justice. Injustices and abuses make me go wild.

 

[gnostic]

When I was in primary school and high school, me and my sisters were the only Chinese or Asians in those schools. And most of kids living there, in the northern suburbs, were Greeks and Italians, they were all Christians. I may not have been Jewish, I was picked on and bullied by few of these "Christians".

Being Christians don't make them not bigots.

Of course, after the the mid-80s, more and more Asians have migrated to Australia, so there are many more of them living everywhere in Melbourne, including in my neighbourhood, and increasingly more Australians have become tolerant of non-European roots.

But it was a different time, in the 70s and early 80s.

 

[metis]

True Roman Catholics are not anti-Semitic but they are anti-Judaism: i.e. anti-Jew. Jews created the phrase anti-Semitic to scare and frighten people into silence. I consider the phrase anti-Semitic to be anti-Gentile and that word 'anti-Semitic is the most disgusting word on the face of the earth because it is full of hatred of Gentile. Any Jew using the phrase antisemitism should be arrested for hate crimes and executed. Most of the Arab nations in the middle east are of the Semitic Races and they are Gentiles so when Jews use that phrase they are trying to be all inclusive of the very people they hate and declared war on.

Jesus Christ was anti-Jew because he was not born a Jew he was born a Christian: being Christ he instituted the Christian Religion. Christ was crucified because he was not a Jew. Christ's ministry was to convert Jews to Christianity and in the eyes of Judaism Christ was a murderer. If a Jew is converted to Christianity he or she is considered by family, friends and associates as being dead though that individual breaths and sire children.

Most people do not realize that being a Jew has nothing to do with ethnic distinctions because being a Jew is a religious distinction and Jews can come out of any ethnic group on earth just as being Christian is a religious distinction and not an ethnic distinction. Christ was not even born of a Jew because Mary could not have conceived Christ by the Holy Spirit if she was of the Jewish mentality. It is impossible for a Jew to know Christ because that is the nature of their religion.

I'm trying to read carefully the above in order to see if I can find anything that is correct.

Still looking.

No luck yet.

I give up.

 

[Levite]

A person with a one word vocabulary, such as ANTISEMITIC, is quite ignorant and I quite agree with your assessment that using the word anti-Semitic is drivel when an individual is incapable of using the English language, outside of using one word, to express him or herself.

If you have a set of itchy-goomies why don't you tell this forum what you really thing but don't use the one word vocabulary. See if you can answer a post honestly without using the word anti-Semite or word derivatives thereof. I don't think you can express yourself outside of that one word. It is very much like some people that cannot express themselves outside the word f--k or word derivatives thereof.

The reason why you are incapable of expressing yourself with the English language is because if you don't use your one word vocabulary you will quickly regress and reveal your true intentions to the world at large. This alone frightens you out of your wits because even the people you know: family, friends and associates would be totally disgusted to learn the true depths of your mentality when it comes to hating your fellow human beings. You know they would shun you and ostracize you from the small community you live in. In other words if you express yourself outside of the use of the word anti-Semitic or word derivatives thereof you would be ostracized, which is the very punishment you are trying to inflict upon other by your using of the word anti-Semitic. You are of a very weak mind because you cannot use the English language to express yourself. Are you presently seeing a psychiatrist for you are desperately in need of psychiatric counseling.

Get off your high horse, Adolf. I have multiple advanced degrees, and have published in numerous journals and anthologies. I am perfectly capable of expressing myself fluently in the English language-- and in the Hebrew language, and in the Aramaic language, for that matter.

I don't need to express myself any more elaborately here because none of the slime you have posted deserves more elaborate response. If you think your little vitriolic screeds and pseudo-intellectual verbal masturbation makes any impression on me, you're living in a fantasy.

 

[4consideration]

True Roman Catholics are not anti-Semitic but they are anti-Judaism: i.e. anti-Jew.

I no longer consider myself a Roman Catholic, but I just can't sit here and read this nonsense without saying something. I think this statement is a load of crap.

If you are anti-Judaism/anti-Jew, please take responsibility for your own self-justified hatred, and do not put it off on others, as if others have to agree with you to be "true" whatever. Roman Catholicism does not support being anti-anyone, so you can knock off acting like you're speaking on behalf of Catholics, or other Christians in general.

 

[4consideration]

I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR RAGE: Thank you for showing the forum exactly who you are. You were after-all hiding behind the word anti-Semitic as if it gave you some unseen power. Now your family, friends and associates know exactly what kind of a mind you truly possess.

Your behavior toward another, a well-respected, member is very bizarre to me. You are coming across exactly as you are accusing.

 

[4consideration]

You are quite right - I am not a Catholic apologist. But Catholics are totally against heresy, which Judaism is and that is the full extent of my hatred for Judaism.

Well...I'll take the instruction of a Catholic nun in a religion class (in the 1970's) as more indicative of the Catholic Church's instruction on the matter, than some guy on the internet.

When posed with the question about the Covenant made between God and the Jewish people, and the New Covenant made with the Christians -- and whether or not that meant the old covenant no longer applied, she responded something very close to: "No. God's covenants are forever. The covenant God made with the Jewish people is still valid, for Jews. That covenant does not apply to Christians. God made a new covenant with Christians, that applies to Christians."

It is a belief that is completely compatible with respecting the Jewish people as being within the good favor of God, and as far as I know is not considered heresy at all.

I think anyone that uses belief in Jesus to justify their own personal hatred of any group of people, especially the group of people that Jesus was born into, really has no understanding of Jesus's message of love.

 

[Quagmire]

I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR RAGE: Thank you for showing the forum exactly who you are. You were after-all hiding behind the word anti-Semitic as if it gave you some unseen power. Now your family, friends and associates know exactly what kind of a mind you truly possess.

By the way my name is not Adolf it is William. You truly show your hatred of all people that dispute the truth of Judaism. Always remember it is the history of Moses and Joshua that taught Adolf Hitler the art of genocide. Hitler failed in his experiment Joshua did not fail is the genocide of the Canaanite Empire.

Did you just call the the holocaust an "experiment"?

 

[Quagmire]

I called Adolf Hitler attempt at genocide and experiment because he failed.

Ah, see I figured there was some other reason you called it that.

It would not have been an experiment if he succeeded.

No, of course not. Then it would have been a "success", right?

The war would be a footnote in history and Germany would rule most of Western Civilization and Judaism would not even be factor in the world

Calm down, calm down. Everyone gets lost in "what might have been" sometimes.

. Please don't misunderstand what I am saying.

Not at all. It almost frightens me how clearly I understand what you're saying.

I wanted to bring to the fore that it was Judaism that taught Germany the art of genocide.

Well of course! Jews were responsible for the Holocaust. It all makes sense now.

 

[Quagmire]

Did you know before World War I that Germany was suppose to be the New Jerusalem?

According to. . .

Read your history and get a real understanding of what cause World War I & II

What caused WWI was a specific people's over-inflated opinion of themselves.

What caused WWII was the fact that people don't generally learn from their mistakes the first time around.

and why Great Britain gave Israel a foothold in the land of Palestine. Then talk about the holocaust again after you get a bird-eye view of reality.

No thanks. Birds tend to be focused on a limited number of elements within their range of sight and oblivious to everything else.

I tend to access reality mostly with my nose. Eyes can be blinded and ears tend to hear what they want to hear, but the nose always knows.

 

[gnostic]

Well...I'll take the instruction of a Catholic nun in a religion class (in the 1970's) as more indicative of the Catholic Church's instruction on the matter, than some guy on the internet.

When posed with the question about the Covenant made between God and the Jewish people, and the New Covenant made with the Christians -- and whether or not that meant the old covenant no longer applied, she responded something very close to: "No. God's covenants are forever. The covenant God made with the Jewish people is still valid, for Jews. That covenant does not apply to Christians. God made a new covenant with Christians, that applies to Christians."

Ha!

Now there is a Catholic nun that I could admire. Very wise...and without a doubt, a very cool nun.

 

[gnostic]

I called Adolf Hitler attempt at genocide and experiment because he failed. It would not have been an experiment if he succeeded. The war would be a footnote in history and Germany would rule most of Western Civilization and Judaism would not even be factor in the world. Please don't misunderstand what I am saying. I wanted to bring to the fore that it was Judaism that taught Germany the art of genocide.

What a load of cow crap!

 

[Artemis]

No Mr W.J .Meegan. Judaism didn't teach the art of genocide to genocide (what an art!) . Turkey did. You are forgetting that there was another massacre in the beginning of that century committed by turks towards Armenian. And remember, and probably you don't even know, that when Hitler started his devilish plan towards jews, he underestimated the media. He remarked I quote his exact words "who remembers today the Armenian massacre" ..?

 

[Estro Felino]

Did you know before World War I that Germany was suppose to be the New Jerusalem? Read your history and get a real understanding of what cause World War I & II and why Great Britain gave Israel a foothold in the land of Palestine. Then talk about the holocaust again after you get a bird-eye view of reality.

I sincerely can't believe that you do believe in what you are claiming here.
I just say that it is a shame that people have always bothered Jews, and always persecuted them.
It is an offense to my values, which are cosmopolitanism and universalism: these values imply the respect of any nation and religio.

 

[redpolk]

But if the God of the Christians and Jews is the same that makes no sense. Why would he only after the death of Jesus actually care for the Gentiles?
Why not from the start?




Do we really need to go over the "History of the Jews in Italy"-article?
Should we take bets on how often the word "persecution/persecuted" appears?

There are various Christian answers to that.One is that God always cared for all people.The Jews were just supposed to set a good example for the Gentiles,ie. be a light unto the nations.

 

[redpolk]

No

I thought as much but thanks for confirming it.

 

[redpolk]

Actually, the Christian God (El) is the Unknown God Saint Paul talks about and El does represent Yahweh (ego-consciousness) or ego-centric god of the Jews. Actually, El is the Canaanite God that Melchizedek worship as outlined in the fourteenth chapter of Genesis. So yes, the spiritual God (El) does not know Jews and therefore Jews are unequal to Christians. This is not me saying this; rather, the bible declare it openly for all to read.

Can you name any Christian sect which agrees with your assertions?

 

[roger1440]

You forget that the Synagogue of Rome is 1 mile away from the Vatican.

Yeah, so what. There are lots of things "1 mile away from the Vatican". including toilets.

 

[Levite]

Yeah, so what. There are lots of things "1 mile away from the Vatican". including toilets.

As it happens, my last trip to Rome, a couple of years ago, I stopped by the Great Synagogue for the evening services, and was halted outside the fence by armed guards, who wouldn't let me in until I had spoken with one of the known members of the synagogue (in Hebrew, since he didn't know English and I didn't know Italian) and had convinced him I was a Jew who just wanted to pray. Why the fear? They had been persistently vandalized and their members harrassed by local anti-Semites, mostly in the guise of Christian anti-Judaism....