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Christians: Why doesn't Satan repent?

McBell

Unbound
The expectation his life would be ruined. That he'd just be an idle, useless cripple for the rest of his life? He actually got up and showed people his determination to succeed.
Really?
And what was the "proof" that he'd be an idle, useless cripple for the rest of his life?
 

Vile Atheist

Loud and Obnoxious
Really?
And what was the "proof" that he'd be an idle, useless cripple for the rest of his life?

I explicitly said in the comment it was an expectation. Not a proof. And I think having only one leg would be enough to ruin most peoples lives. Yet people are resilient. There are people who play guitar with their feet because they have no arms. There are deaf kids who can play music beautifully.

Even in the business world, there are many people who won't let anything get in the way of their success (and I support that, as long as it is done ethically).

It's a combination of courage and tenacity. That's what I admire.
 

McBell

Unbound
I explicitly said in the comment it was an expectation.
Which plainly shows that it does not apply.
That it is completely irrelevant to the tangent at hand.
yet you drive down your non-relevant road as tenaciously as a thief fleeing the bank he just robbed.

Most interesting.
 
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Vile Atheist

Loud and Obnoxious
Which plainly shows that it does not apply.
That it is completely irrelevant to the tangent at hand.
yet you drive down your non-relevant road as tenaciously as a thief fleeing the bank he just robbed.

Most interesting.

It was a passing remark that I think tenacity is a positive attribute in most situations. Keywords being "I think", hence, this is my opinion that tenacity (especially coupled with courage), can be a positive attribute under the correct circumstances.

How am I being tenacious? I stated an opinion, you asked for an example, I gave you many - but apparently not to your standard. If it's that important to you, outline criteria that will meet your standard of evidence and I'll probably be able to find an applicable situation.

Edit: If you want me to be tenacious and needlessly argumentative, that can be arranged lol. But unfortunately this is a situation in which tenacity is not desirable.
 
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McBell

Unbound
I've shown many but apparently not to your satisfaction. If you want one that badly, outline some criteria so I meet your standard.
Are you kidding me?

Not one of your examples included someone denying something in spite of proof showing they are wrong.
NOT A SINGLE ONE.

Now you want me to RE-outline the criteria?
Amazing.
Simply Amazing.
 

Vile Atheist

Loud and Obnoxious
Are you kidding me?

Not one of your examples included someone denying something in spite of proof showing they are wrong.
NOT A SINGLE ONE.

Now you want me to RE-outline the criteria?
Amazing.
Simply Amazing.

Because you are employing a strawman. What you are describing is fundamentalism.

I said that in SOME situations tenacity can be a good thing. And I already said this isn't a situation where tenacity is desirable.

We're talking about two different things. You are speaking of fundamentalism and I of resilience and fortitude.
 

Vile Atheist

Loud and Obnoxious
Also I feel I should point out that I have no context of this thread. I merely read this post:

Pride means never admitting defeat, even when it's glaring you right in the face.

And commented that if that's the case, pride can be a good thing.

For example, pride may ensure that a student studies hard at a test despite all indications he'll fail it miserably. And as a result, the student may succeed because of it.
 

Vile Atheist

Loud and Obnoxious
I agree with you on that last line of post 37. But what I was describing was clearly different than holding onto an assertion despite proof to the contrary. I thought by using an example like Terry Fox, that would be self-evident.

But I've made that distinction, you know what that distinction now. And whether or not you agree with that distinction is of no consequence. It's mere opinion and nothing more.
 

lockyfan

Active Member
Satan is proud and the cause for all the siffering on this planet through his choice and him questioning Jehovahs soverignty.

He would rather die than repent.
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
It is my understanding that Lucifer came out in open rebellion against God after having the fullness of the gospel given to him in the pre-existence. This is the only unpardonable sin. you can't un-ring that bell.
 

lockyfan

Active Member
It is my understanding that Lucifer came out in open rebellion against God after having the fullness of the gospel given to him in the pre-existence. This is the only unpardonable sin. you can't un-ring that bell.

The fullness of what Gospel? The whole of human existance? How is that nice then, because by that logic, God would have known that giving Satan that information would create the situation, so to avoid the situation he wouldn give the information.

The scriptures tell us that God feels "hurt in his heart" at the violence on the earth and that he is waiting for the day he has appointed for the end of this wicked system


Because God is a dick.
What makes you say that?

what makes you think that satan is?

The bible.

Rev 20:10
And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulphur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet [already were]; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
 
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