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Citing staffing issues and political climate, North Idaho hospital will no longer deliver babies.

Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sand Dancer said:
This will only get worse as the states are less purple and more deep red and deep blue. The moderates will have no power, and they are the only ones who can save us. Most people don't want to live in far right or far left states, so we need to get busy to restore democracy.
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It's waining fast. Less and less freedoms under Socialist Democrats rule , and even some Republicans with questionable ties and decision making, and its getting worse each election that passes.
 
Orbit

Orbit

I'm a planet
Orbit

Orbit

I'm a planet
Twilight Hue said:
It's waining fast. Less and less freedoms under Socialist Democrats rule , and even some Republicans with questionable ties and decision making, and its getting worse each election that passes.
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Republicans are taking away rights and freedom as fast as they can. Health care rights, targeting trans people, who have a right to exist. Republicans are getting worse with each election, passing bills to facist-ize education, targeting the vulnerable.
 
Secret Chief

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
Sand Dancer

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
Orbit said:
Republicans are taking away rights and freedom as fast as they can. Health care rights, targeting trans people, who have a right to exist. Republicans are getting worse with each election, passing bills to facist-ize education, targeting the vulnerable.
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Hopefully as the dinosaurs die off, moderates will get elected in their place.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sand Dancer said:
Both extremes are working hard. I hope we can stop it.
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If there was a central position, we would have bipartisanship right now. Clearly that's a rarity today.

That's why I don't believe people who claim our politicians are in central field.

I really think a civil war is in the realm of probability if things don't start returning to the center.
 
Sand Dancer

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
Twilight Hue said:
If there was a central position, we would have bipartisanship right now. Clearly that's a rarity today.

That's why I don't believe people who claim our politicians are in central field.

I really think a civil war is in the realm of probability if things don't start returning to the center.
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I don't doubt it.
 
Orbit

Orbit

I'm a planet
Twilight Hue said:
If there was a central position, we would have bipartisanship right now. Clearly that's a rarity today.

That's why I don't believe people who claim our politicians are in central field.

I really think a civil war is in the realm of probability if things don't start returning to the center.
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The shift has been to the right, not the left. Even Democrats have right-center positions on many issues.
 
Father Heathen

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Twilight Hue said:
Maybe now, people might want to get rid of the nanny state.

Then again, maybe weaponize it as revenge politics.

Your probably right. It's going to be used as a tool for revenge.
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Pretending that it's about "revenge" and not superstitious and misogynous ideology, do you honestly think that forcing a 10 year old rape victim to carry to term is proportionate to a ban on plastic bags or any of the other trivial **** you cry about?
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Father Heathen said:
Pretending that it's about "revenge" and not superstitious, misogynous ideology, do you honestly think that forcing a 10 year old rape victim to carry to term is proportionate to a ban on plastic bags or any of the other trivial **** you cry about?
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It's the legal mechanism that enables the nanny state and not the objects/subject in question itself that I rail against.

Freedom is Freedom , and includes big and small.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Father Heathen said:
Why don't your posts reflect this attitude?
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It had. I was, for example at the time it happened, I was critical of the newly overturned RvW and questioned why Republicans messed with it when it was already stable and legal as it was.

I illustrated or at least attempted to, in past postings, how those legal mechanisms of the nanny state can be used for just about anything and everything in its sights. People thought it was entirely over those objects and subjects alone.

At least you got what I was trying to relate on the matter here. :0]
 
Father Heathen

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Twilight Hue said:
It had. I was, for example at the time it happened, I was critical of the newly overturned RvW and questioned why Republicans messed with it when it was already stable and legal as it was.

I illustrated or at least attempted to, in past postings, how those legal mechanisms of the nanny state can be used for just about anything and everything in its sights. People thought it was entirely over those objects and subjects alone.

At least you got what I was trying to relate on the matter here. :0]
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You questioned why the evangelical party targeted the bodily rights of women, like it came as a surprise?

Also, do you consider speed limits and stop signs an example of a "nanny state" or reasonable restrictions? Where do you draw the line?
 
crossfire

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Shaul said:
Which is certainly unfortunate. But the reason is that the birthing age population is shrinking. This is true both in Sandpoint, Idaho and in general in the United States. The birth rate in the United States has fallen to about 1.6 per woman. Few pregnancies mean less birthing facilities. Yes, that sucks for those that are pregnant. But the cause is demographics not anti-abortion legislation. Anti-abortion legislation is a secondary factor only. The closure of this facility would happen eventually anyway. Those with a political agenda to decry abortion restrictions (their favorite whipping boy) as the prime cause are wrong to do so.
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The facility is not closing. The hospital is staying open. It is only turning birthing women away. What if they said they are turning away any other specific group? Would you find it disturbing if they said they were turning away cardiac patients instead of birthing women?
 
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