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Fallen Prophet

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Policy said:
Q: Who was responsible for the perpetuation of Christianity in the late Roman Empire and beyond.
A; Christians.
Q: Was slavery ever reintroduced?
A: No. Because it was never banned.
Q: Why was it that Christianity finally ended slavery in Europe, the Americas, Africa and the Middle East?
A: It didn't. A tiny schism sect of Christians who opposed slavery took advantage of the changing economics of the industrial age, to convince the VAST MAJORITY of Christians who benefitted directly and indirectly from slavery, that it was in the best interest of their pocketbooks. Likewise, it was economics and optics that drove Britain out of India. And Christianity did not end slavery in the Middle East.
Q: Why is it that people don't like to think that Lincoln ended slavery as an institution amongst native Americans?
A: I have no idea what that sentence means. In any case, don't ask me why unspecified people don't like to think something.
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It was the Christian principles found in the West that led to the end of slavery in the West.

Christianity did not end slavery in the Middle East because there isn't much Christianity to be found there.
 
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ppp

Well-Known Member
Fallen Prophet said:
Aw - you're just a troll. Got it.
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[shrug] if you like. Or if you actually want a conversation you could try being less imperious and presumptive. If you look back at your posts, you offered nothing more than my post that you are complaining about. If you're trying to get me to start from the position of presuming that just because you say something that it's true, you are going to be sorely disappointed.
 
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PruePhillip

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Policy said:
Q: Who was responsible for the perpetuation of Christianity in the late Roman Empire and beyond.
A; Christians.
Q: Was slavery ever reintroduced?
A: No. Because it was never banned.
Q: Why was it that Christianity finally ended slavery in Europe, the Americas, Africa and the Middle East?
A: It didn't. A tiny schism sect of Christians who opposed slavery took advantage of the changing economics of the industrial age, to convince the VAST MAJORITY of Christians who benefitted directly and indirectly from slavery, that it was in the best interest of their pocketbooks. Likewise, it was economics and optics that drove Britain out of India. And Christianity did not end slavery in the Middle East.
Q: Why is it that people don't like to think that Lincoln ended slavery as an institution amongst native Americans?
A: I have no idea what that sentence means. In any case, don't ask me why unspecified people don't like to think something.
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Slavery as a significant economic force delined with the rise of Christianity in the Roman Empire.
Slavery weasled its way back into some Christian societies by people who breached Christian principles.
But slavery was never able to find a home in Christianity and was eventually banished, not only in Europe
and America, but in Africa and the Muslim world as well by Christian force (mostly British BTW)
Slavery is like war - it existed amongst some Christians in violation of Christianity, not because of Christianity.
 
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ppp

Well-Known Member
PruePhillip said:
Slavery as a significant economic force delined with the rise of Christianity in the Roman Empire.
Slavery weasled its way back into some Christian societies by people who breached Christian principles.
But slavery was never able to find a home in Christianity and was eventually banished, not only in Europe
and America, but in Africa and the Muslim world as well by Christian force (mostly British BTW)
Slavery is like war - it existed amongst some Christians in violation of Christianity, not because of Christianity.
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None of those statements are true.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
PruePhillip said:
Slavery as a significant economic force delined with the rise of Christianity in the Roman Empire.
Slavery weasled its way back into some Christian societies by people who breached Christian principles.
But slavery was never able to find a home in Christianity and was eventually banished, not only in Europe
and America, but in Africa and the Muslim world as well by Christian force (mostly British BTW)
Slavery is like war - it existed amongst some Christians in violation of Christianity, not because of Christianity.
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Where on earth did you find this " history"?
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Policy said:
Twaddle. Christians were the almost exclusive purveyors of slavery for the first one-thousand nine hundred years of Christianity in Europe and later the Americas. They made an entire industry out of it. The Atlantic slave trade was a Christian industry that supported the economy and benefited all of the members of Christendom -- except the slaves -- for almost 500 years. Then there was the effective enslavement of India, and western and southern Africa. Christianity not only condoned slavery, it wallowed in it.

Go ahead and invoke the Quakers. I dare you. The <1% of Christians who fought against slavery. And who were they fighting against? The 99% of other Christians who either actively supported the institution or tacitly benefitted from it.. The only reason that the Quakers were able to make headway against slavery was because the Industrial Revolution made slavery much less profitable. Under their Quaker watch, with a very few exceptions, slavery only became illegal in Industrialized areas, Which is why Christian slave ownership persisted long after the repeal in UK and the American Civil war. It persisted in the Caribbean, South America, India, the west cost of Africa, the Africans interior, and South Africa. Probably more places of which I am unaware.

Claiming that slavery was not condoned by Christianity is twaddle.

One-thousand nine hundred years.
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Not to mention the whole " divine right of
kings" thing with the enslaved peasants and the
church /:king in unholy alliance.

The more people deny the role, the
worse they look.
 
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PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
Policy said:
None of those statements are true.
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Fallen Prophet

Well-Known Member
Policy said:
[shrug] if you like. Or if you actually want a conversation you could try being less imperious and presumptive. If you look back at your posts, you offered nothing more than my post that you are complaining about. If you're trying to get me to start from the position of presuming that just because you say something that it's true, you are going to be sorely disappointed.
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No - I asked you very specific questions about your claims and the Bible.

I asked you where in the Bible it claims that the Earth is 6,000 years old.

I asked you if you had ever read the Bible.

You were unwilling to attempt to answer those questions because all you want to do is make claim about the Bible without actually making claim about the Bible.

You are trying to make the claims of the Bible look ridiculous by referencing only what a select group of people have claimed about the Bible.

You are the one with the imperious and presumptive agenda here.
 
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