Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Ok..so you too believe life in the universe is not a result of any universal process...
Specifically, what is this universal process you speak of?
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Could Nothingness Be Another Dimension In And Of Itself?
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Specifically, what is this universal process you speak of?
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Still..everything in the universe has a reason and a purpose...evolutionary processes carries on even in an outhouse......
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
creation of living entities....
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
How is it not.....all that exists is the manifestation of the universe....the universe is omnipresent...
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Sure, but how do you get life and consciousness out of that? Not everything is living or conscious.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
I am not omniscient and so can not describe the actual details....which is why it is merely called a universal process...science would not dispute this fact..
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Pretty sure science would dispute that the universe as a whole is a living, conscious entity.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
But I did not say that....I said that science would not dispute the fact that all life in the universe is a result of a not yet fully understood universal process...
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
So how is it the universe is a singular, conscious and omniscient entity, but you yourself are not omniscient along with it?
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
??? Humans are limited creatures relative to the totality of the universe...like asking why a cell in a human body why it does not have the same awareness as human as a whole....
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Underlying these complex interactions are universal principles....hence it is a universal process...
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
??? Humans are limited creatures relative to the totality of the universe...like asking why a cell in a human body why it does not have the same awareness as human as a whole....
So certain parts of this omniscient universe is limited?
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
All parts are limited....for they in fact all work together to form the universe....
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Sure, we call those the Fundamental Forces. That does doesn't mean complexity in the form of life or consciousness is universal.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
I do not know what you are trying to say...the fundamental forces are omnipresent and therefore life forms will arise as befits the appropriate physical environmental resources concerned...
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Yes, given enough time and the right conditions, those more complex forms will emerge. The potential for life and consciousness is universal.
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
If God is omniscient, should his hands be limited? Should his vision be limited? Should his knowing be limited? If the universe is truly omniscient, there should be no limited parts.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
So here is another one whose mind is conditioned to conceive of an anthropomorphic deity when the word God is mentioned...